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Fleet Captain
Location: Liverpool, UK
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Episode of the Week: Heart of Glory
At least they acknowledge the ability to seperate saucer before going into a dangerous situation. Later on it seems to get forgotten about. "The Romulans, now there's a name we've not heard in a while" - really? I'm sure we heard of them a couple of episodes back in Angel One? I understand why they wanted each episode to "stand-alone" but what is achieved by blatantly ignoring established continuity? Lieutenant Yar doesn't look happy when she is told to wait at her post whilst the away team beams over to the Batris! Geordi's futuristic "head-cam" mustn't even have seemed futuristic in 1987, surely?! What is nice about this little scene though, is that it shows Geordi to be the one person who perceives Data very differently, yet he is the one that treats him the most humanly. Worf's agreeing to show the Klingons around the engine room shortly after they admit having lied to his Captain has been covered before. Do all Klingon uniforms have the ability to make a weapon? Or were the renegades just well prepared? "Kling"? A moon of Q'onos perhaps? A colony? One of the highlights of Season One.
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Re: Episode of the Week: Heart of Glory
Kronos is a retcon. Great, great episode. One of TNG's best and, I think, one of the definitive Klingon episodes. I liked these Klingons a hell of a lot more than Ron Moore's drinking biker gang.
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Fleet Captain
Location: Liverpool, UK
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Re: Episode of the Week: Heart of Glory
So this and Angel One were written at a similar time? Thanks for the explanation.
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Re: Episode of the Week: Heart of Glory
And indeed, Heart of Glory is a good episode, but suffers from the all-too-common early-TNG failing that everyone, Worf included, is just really dumb. |
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Re: Episode of the Week: Heart of Glory
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Rear Admiral
Location: Los Angeles
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Re: Episode of the Week: Heart of Glory
This could have been an even better episode, but it suffered from many of the same issues lots of other first season episodes did. They had trouble actually just telling the story, and not stopping to talk too much along the way. I did really like how they adressed that the alliance with the Federation was painful for the Klingons who were therefore restricted from fighting their greatest foe. It showed how it was basically killing their very soul, being forced to be all nicey-nicey. It was kind of a nice follow up in the Klingon Civil War when they showed how happy many of the Klingons were to be fighting in battle. Even if it was against each other.
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Location: Asheville, NC
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Re: Episode of the Week: Heart of Glory
And the moment the Klingons started hanging out with Worf, I knew where this episode was headed. Are you one of us? Where does your allegiance lie? You would fight for them? Yadayadayada. Doesn't take much to know how this will end. I do give this episode credit for showing us the TMP Klingon D7. Always good to see that beauty again. |
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Re: Episode of the Week: Heart of Glory
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Re: Episode of the Week: Heart of Glory
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Commodore
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Re: Episode of the Week: Heart of Glory
I didn't like the constant re-use of the approaching Klingon ship, however. And yeah, the whole, they lied to us but let's take them to the most sensitive area of the ship thing is crazy.
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Rear Admiral
Location: Second star to the right and 'round back to last night
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Re: Episode of the Week: Heart of Glory
Tasha beams the landing party and Klingons from the Batris to the Enterprise in a scene that is plainly intended to be suspenseful. The music rises to an exciting crescendo (itself a stock cue without a lick of originality) as the shots cut back and forth between the transporter room and the Batris, everybody puts on a worried look, and the transporter works then doesn’t work then finally works and gets everybody to the Enterprise at the last possible moment just as the Batris explodes. It’s as if it were written, directed and edited by kids mimicking what they have seen in suspenseful scenes in other works, but who understand it so little that they don’t realize a necessary ingredient is some uncertainty about what’s going to happen or how it’s going to happen. In another moment of psuedo-tension, the Klingons ask Worf to betray the Enterprise and join them as Worf looks back and forth, the music rises, and we cut to commercial. Frankly, I find it embarrassing to watch. (That happens a lot in S1.) The Klingons narrate the story of how they defeated the Ferengi with phrases like, “We had only one chance,” as if somebody thinks it makes the story dramatic or interesting. The Klingons beam with pride as if they’re describing something clever and original, but it’s a perfectly ordinary tale of false surrender, devoid of any novelty. The tactic is as old as warfare, it’s obvious and known to most adults. We don’t see it a lot because it’s prohibited by the Geneva Convention. The escape from the brig is similarly hackneyed and too obvious to be believable. Yet we spend nearly a full minute watching the Klingons put their gun together. (The guards, as is typical, don’t bother to watch.) The director (Rob Bowman) evidently thought it was interesting enough to be worth that much of our time. It’s like asking people to read a big wall of text griping about obvious flaws in the episode that... Oh.
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Re: Episode of the Week: Heart of Glory
The species name Klingon come from who they are, not where they're from.
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Re: Episode of the Week: Heart of Glory
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Re: Episode of the Week: Heart of Glory
Rob Bowman's direction is the other thing that keeps the silly script alive. The only thing to distract from the fact that the Klingons build a gun in the brig under the noses of the guards is the percussive editing (and music) in this sequence.
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Location: Asheville, NC
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