The new Jar Jar

Grup · December 12 2012, 12:59 AM

Is it me or is Keenser going to end up as our (Trek fans) Jar Jar?

I didn't care for him the first time out. Maybe they'll develop him more this time out. But I'm not holding my breath.

Gojira · December 12 2012, 01:02 AM

I was one that never found Jar Jar annoying. That's just me. I am glad to see Keenser back.

Ovation · December 12 2012, 01:04 AM

Unless he becomes a permanent member of the bridge crew, I don't see where he'll be on screen long enough to be seriously annoying (to anyone inclined to find him thus). Jar-Jar was a much more central character (sadly, in my opinion, but that's me) than Keenser is ever likely to be.

Mr. Laser Beam · December 12 2012, 01:05 AM

Keenser was never annoying (to anyone but Scotty

). I mean, what did he actually DO in the film that was so bad? Whack Scotty on the back of the head? Say "Me"? Climb up on the engineering console? None of that's even close to the Jar-Jar level of annoyance.

I mean, Keenser actually had a job which he was good at. And he didn't say much. What's wrong with that?

Grup · December 12 2012, 01:06 AM

Not a SW fan myself. But viewing Jar Jar out of context, I found him to be annoying. But then again, that's my opinion.

Maybe Keenser will get developed more and this thread will be moot.

Kelso · December 12 2012, 01:07 AM

Keenser is fantastic.

Xaios · December 12 2012, 01:12 AM

That's a terrible comparison. Jar Jar was not only hideously annoying, but he was everywhere in The Phantom Menace. Seriously, he was inescapable. Keenser is just kinda there, doing his thing (whatever that is), and certainly not for long. Heck, he doesn't even have any real lines, so how on earth can you compare him to Jar Jar?

Mach5 · December 12 2012, 01:12 AM

Jesus Christ, we've seen him for, what, three minutes?

Grup · December 12 2012, 01:19 AM

True. Screen time was minimal. I just found his presence not so much annoying as just unneeded. Again, just my opinion.

Bishop76 · December 12 2012, 01:30 AM

Keenser is relatively inoffensive. He's just a comic relief character who is used exactly as much as he should be and his few moments in the movie are actually funny/silly/whatever. Jar Jar was shoved down our throats from the word GO in Phantom Menace and never EVER brought a smile to anyone over the age of or with an IQ over 5.

The Keeper · December 12 2012, 01:30 AM

This character has always reminded me of a very strange last sentence uttered by Kirk at the ending of Plato's Stepchildren.

He is bringing Alexander up to the Enterprise and he says to Scotty:

Kirk to Enterprise. Mr. Scott, prepare to beam us up. I have a little surprise for you. I'm bringing a visitor aboard.

"Little" reference aside, why would Scott be so surprised about this particular visitor?

Could Scotty be heartbroken over the loss of a old friend who happened to be a short little alien and Kirk is hoping to cheer him up?

That is the first thing I thought of when I saw Keenser and Scott together.

Grup · December 12 2012, 01:41 AM

Ghost of Christmas Future wrote:

This character has always reminded me of a very strange last sentence uttered by Kirk at the ending of Plato's Stepchildren.

He is bringing Alexander up to the Enterprise and he says to Scotty:

Kirk to Enterprise. Mr. Scott, prepare to beam us up. I have a little surprise for you. I'm bringing a visitor aboard.

"Little" reference aside, why would Scott be so surprised about this particular visitor?

Could Scotty be heartbroken over the loss of a old friend who happened to be a short little alien and Kirk is hoping to cheer him up?

That is the first thing I thought of when I saw Keenser and Scott together.

I like it.

Melakon · December 12 2012, 01:43 AM

Keenser is nowhere near approaching the Jar Jar Annoyance Factor. His presence in the first film seemed only to give Scott someone to talk to for the 6 months (or whatever) they were alone in the facility. We still hardly know anything about him, except that his species may form strong emotional bonds to other individuals, as evidenced by his sadness when Scott and Kirk left. For a small species, they seem adept at climbing objects. Hopefully these traits will be used if they ever give him some important plot-related actions.

It was nice to see Deep Roy still working, I started noticing his name in the early 80s.

Dukhat · December 12 2012, 03:23 AM

Grup wrote:

True. Screen time was minimal. I just found his presence not so much annoying as just unneeded. Again, just my opinion.

I thought Scotty was more annoying than Keenser.

Admiral Buzzkill · December 12 2012, 03:26 AM

Grup wrote:

Is it me or is Keenser going to end up as our (Trek fans) Jar Jar?

It's you.

December 12 2012, 12:59 AM	#1
Grup Lieutenant Commander Location: PA	The new Jar Jar Is it me or is Keenser going to end up as our (Trek fans) Jar Jar? I didn't care for him the first time out. Maybe they'll develop him more this time out. But I'm not holding my breath.

December 12 2012, 01:02 AM	#2
Gojira Commodore Location: Stompin' on Tokyo	Re: The new Jar Jar I was one that never found Jar Jar annoying. That's just me. I am glad to see Keenser back. __________________ My Science Fiction-Fantasy movie review Blog: http://foleyfunfilmfacts.wordpress.com/

December 12 2012, 01:04 AM	#3
Ovation Vice Admiral Location: La Belle Province or The Green Mountain State (depends on the day of the week)	Re: The new Jar Jar Unless he becomes a permanent member of the bridge crew, I don't see where he'll be on screen long enough to be seriously annoying (to anyone inclined to find him thus). Jar-Jar was a much more central character (sadly, in my opinion, but that's me) than Keenser is ever likely to be.

December 12 2012, 01:05 AM	#4
Mr. Laser Beam Fleet Admiral Location: The visitor's bullpen	Re: The new Jar Jar Keenser was never annoying (to anyone but Scotty ). I mean, what did he actually DO in the film that was so bad? Whack Scotty on the back of the head? Say "Me"? Climb up on the engineering console? None of that's even close to the Jar-Jar level of annoyance. I mean, Keenser actually had a job which he was good at. And he didn't say much. What's wrong with that? __________________ It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the beans of Java that thoughts acquire speed, the hands acquire shakes, the shakes become a warning. It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion.

December 12 2012, 01:06 AM	#5
Grup Lieutenant Commander Location: PA	Re: The new Jar Jar Not a SW fan myself. But viewing Jar Jar out of context, I found him to be annoying. But then again, that's my opinion. Maybe Keenser will get developed more and this thread will be moot.

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December 12 2012, 01:07 AM	#6
Kelso Vice Admiral Location: On the destruct button until the last minute!	Re: The new Jar Jar Keenser is fantastic. __________________ "Murder on Tuesday"! The all-new comic strip from Kail Tescar's startrekanimated.com My Puppet Building Blog!

December 12 2012, 01:12 AM	#7
Xaios Lieutenant Commander	Re: The new Jar Jar That's a terrible comparison. Jar Jar was not only hideously annoying, but he was *everywhere* in The Phantom Menace. Seriously, he was inescapable. Keenser is just kinda there, doing his thing (whatever that is), and certainly not for long. Heck, he doesn't even have any real lines, so how on earth can you compare him to Jar Jar?

December 12 2012, 01:12 AM	#8
Mach5 Rear Admiral Location: 里耶卡	Re: The new Jar Jar Jesus Christ, we've seen him for, what, three minutes? __________________ No religious or family tradition can stand in the way of change.

December 12 2012, 01:19 AM	#9
Grup Lieutenant Commander Location: PA	Re: The new Jar Jar True. Screen time was minimal. I just found his presence not so much annoying as just unneeded. Again, just my opinion.

December 12 2012, 01:30 AM	#10
Bishop76 Fleet Captain Location: Wisconsin	Re: The new Jar Jar Keenser is relatively inoffensive. He's just a comic relief character who is used exactly as much as he should be and his few moments in the movie are actually funny/silly/whatever. Jar Jar was shoved down our throats from the word GO in Phantom Menace and never EVER brought a smile to anyone over the age of or with an IQ over 5. __________________ Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or fucking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back.

December 12 2012, 01:43 AM	#13
Melakon Commodore Location: Unmarked grave, Ekos	Re: The new Jar Jar Keenser is nowhere near approaching the Jar Jar Annoyance Factor. His presence in the first film seemed only to give Scott someone to talk to for the 6 months (or whatever) they were alone in the facility. We still hardly know anything about him, except that his species may form strong emotional bonds to other individuals, as evidenced by his sadness when Scott and Kirk left. For a small species, they seem adept at climbing objects. Hopefully these traits will be used if they ever give him some important plot-related actions. It was nice to see Deep Roy still working, I started noticing his name in the early 80s. __________________ "Every time you think, you weaken the nation." --Moe Howard