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Old December 11 2012, 08:12 PM   #31
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Re: JJ Abrams and Secrecy... anyone else tired of it?

TrekBBS focus group executive committee says it wants more/less/same amount of secrecy. Are you listening, J.J.?
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Old December 11 2012, 08:18 PM   #32
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Re: JJ Abrams and Secrecy... anyone else tired of it?

Doesn't bother me. It baffles me why people would want to know everything six months before the movie opens.

I still regret hearing about the chest-burster scene before seeing ALIEN for the first time. And I don't get me started about that friend back in 1980 who left me a phone message to the effect of "Ohmigod, Vader is Luke's father!"

Clearly, I'm still suffering from Post-Traumatic Spoiler Syndrome . . .
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Old December 11 2012, 08:35 PM   #33
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Re: JJ Abrams and Secrecy... anyone else tired of it?

The secrecy can be vexing to me, I'll admit that. (John Harrison? For real?)

I suppose with the movie being five months off, I could do the rational thing and walk away from it until May. I could, mind you. I don't need to go to trektoday or trekmovie.com every day to see if JJ has given us another piece of kibble to chew on. I can quit any time I want to. Yep. I just don't want to quit right now.
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Old December 11 2012, 08:39 PM   #34
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Doesn't bother me. It baffles me why people would want to know everything six months before the movie opens.

I still regret hearing about the chest-burster scene before seeing ALIEN for the first time. And I don't get me started about that friend back in 1980 who left me a phone message to the effect of "Ohmigod, Vader is Luke's father!"

Clearly, I'm still suffering from Post-Traumatic Spoiler Syndrome . . .
Surely you mean "ex-friend".
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Old December 11 2012, 08:50 PM   #35
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Re: JJ Abrams and Secrecy... anyone else tired of it?

I actually like the secrecy a lot and would be perfectly content if the news we got so far is pretty much all we'll be getting until the movie's release.
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Old December 11 2012, 08:54 PM   #36
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We're not being forced to pay any attention to it, and it's a smart way to market the movie before the real marketing (Paramount's) takes over.

...although I suppose it's a bit annoying that I wanted to stick around only till I learned the name of the charatcer Cumby is playing so I don't get wildly spoiled on everything like last time. Well, I've learned it but somehow I think there's more to the story.
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Old December 11 2012, 08:57 PM   #37
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I have no problem with the secrecy at all. I would prefer not knowing or hearing anything about the film before going in - although that's virtually impossible. I'll make up my own mind if I like it or not.
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Old December 11 2012, 09:29 PM   #38
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Doesn't bother me. It baffles me why people would want to know everything six months before the movie opens.

I still regret hearing about the chest-burster scene before seeing ALIEN for the first time. And I don't get me started about that friend back in 1980 who left me a phone message to the effect of "Ohmigod, Vader is Luke's father!"

Clearly, I'm still suffering from Post-Traumatic Spoiler Syndrome . . .
Surely you mean "ex-friend".
Believe it or not, no. But you'll note I'm still bitching about it thirty-two years later!
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Old December 11 2012, 09:41 PM   #39
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Re: JJ Abrams and Secrecy... anyone else tired of it?

It doesn't really bother me that much, although the secrecy does build the anticipation so I hope the film can live up to that. In some ways I'm glad, it makes avoiding spoilers a lot easier
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Old December 11 2012, 09:47 PM   #40
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Re: JJ Abrams and Secrecy... anyone else tired of it?

All the speculation and combing through old episodes is fun, yes, but the only thing that would worry me is if it's over-hyped and then under-delivers.

Face it, a good movie is one that you can watch over and over even knowing a big reveal (like The Empire Strikes Back). A big shock revelation is fun once, but if that's all a film has, then it won't stand the test of time. I'm hoping Abrams is holding stuff for a big reveal that won't be that entertaining when it's watched for the dozenth time.
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Old December 11 2012, 10:14 PM   #41
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If you want me to buy a ticket, give some information to go off of. You're right, JJ doesn't owe us shit, but if the secrecy is over something ridiculous.....
If you want to know all about the movie before your see it to decide if you WANT to see it, I would suggest the novel idea of waiting until the movie has been out for a few weeks, listen to the reviews and then decide. The movie will still be 'fresh' even a week or two later.

The strategy J.J.'s team has is working excellent for them. Look at all the discussion that is going on about possibilities. I, too, wonder about the folks that want to know all about a movie before it premieres. Someone did spoil me about Vader's reveal to Luke AND the 'surprise' scene in "The Crying Game", which would have been a more fun surprise as experienced while in the moment in the theater.

It really would be pretty easy to avoid so many spoilers (& potential spoilers) by just staying out of this forum, but I confess that I enjoy the ongoing serious discussions, humorous theories, and even a controlled amount of griping about Trek here as much as I do actually watching the Trek movies, so I am in here again, pulling at the wrapping paper just a bit....
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Old December 11 2012, 11:54 PM   #42
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Re: JJ Abrams and Secrecy... anyone else tired of it?

Just to add my two cents, I enjoy spoiling myself silly. I can understand people wanting to go in fresh and unspoiled, but I wonder - do those people ever re-watch movies and re-read books?

If it's a good story, knowing how it unfolds and ends shouldn't be a problem. I re-read many books in my library, and even though I'm thoroughly spoiled in every detail, I enjoy it no less.
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Old December 11 2012, 11:57 PM   #43
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Just to add my two cents, I enjoy spoiling myself silly. I can understand people wanting to go in fresh and unspoiled, but I wonder - do those people ever re-watch movies and re-read books?
Yes, we do. It's a different experience watching something unspoiled or as unspoiled as possible and rewatching something knowing what happens.
It's good to be able to enjoy both experiences, they have different things to offer.
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Old December 12 2012, 12:04 AM   #44
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Just to add my two cents, I enjoy spoiling myself silly. I can understand people wanting to go in fresh and unspoiled, but I wonder - do those people ever re-watch movies and re-read books?
Yes, we do. It's a different experience watching something unspoiled or as unspoiled as possible and rewatching something knowing what happens.
It's good to be able to enjoy both experiences, they have different things to offer.
Exactly. It is difficult to believe that some people don't seem to understand this distinction. The idea that not wanting spoilers means I don't ever watch (or listen or read) something again is strawman argument. It is NOT an either/or proposition.
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Old December 12 2012, 12:17 AM   #45
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Re: JJ Abrams and Secrecy... anyone else tired of it?

Pavonis wrote: View Post
Just to add my two cents, I enjoy spoiling myself silly. I can understand people wanting to go in fresh and unspoiled, but I wonder - do those people ever re-watch movies and re-read books?

If it's a good story, knowing how it unfolds and ends shouldn't be a problem. I re-read many books in my library, and even though I'm thoroughly spoiled in every detail, I enjoy it no less.
Of course we enjoy rewatches and re-reads. But, twists are put into movies/books to be enjoyed as twists, so, the first time you should be allowed to enjoy those twists unspoiled, and then enjoy th rewatch/re-read on a different level for the rest of the story
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