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Old December 11 2012, 08:51 PM   #61
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Re: New Info! (Bad Robot press event/villain ID'd, etc.) *SPOILERS*

In the most technical sense. "John Harrison" is a character from cannon just by being in this movie.
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Old December 11 2012, 08:58 PM   #62
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One of the reasons fans are scratching their heads is because producer/co-writer Roberto Orci had previously stated that Cumberbatch was playing a character from Star Trek’s canon. Clearly ‘John Harrison’ is not from Trek’s canon. Tune in tomorrow to find out what both Alex Kurtzman and Roberto Orci had to say about this discrepancy.
I can't wait to see how they wiggle out of that "canon character" statement from July 2012.
Simple, Cumby is playing two characters. John Harrison is a hapless redshirt/new character being mind controlled by a canon character who is capable of such things....
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Old December 11 2012, 08:59 PM   #63
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Has anyone noticed this picture/vidoescreen on Cumberbatch's arm? Alomost remoned me of an Orion slave girl.

Any ideas?
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Old December 11 2012, 09:01 PM   #64
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Re: New Info! (Bad Robot press event/villain ID'd, etc.) *SPOILERS*

And it's always a possibility that, yes, John Harrison is a name used on-screen (and even the name of a real Starfleet officer in the film) but it's a fake identity being used by Cumberbatch to disguise who he really is.
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Old December 11 2012, 09:01 PM   #65
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What's the bets they find Khan's sleeper ship at the end of this movie, setting up for #3?
Sure, why not? I have no issue with Khan being revived, just that Cumby's not the guy to play him.
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Old December 11 2012, 09:06 PM   #66
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Has anyone noticed this picture/vidoescreen on Cumberbatch's arm? Alomost remoned me of an Orion slave girl.

Any ideas?
It's been noticed.

Is it actually on his arm, though, or might it be a reflection in the "glass" of the brig enclosure of something which is behind the camera's POV or otherwise out-of-frame?
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Old December 11 2012, 09:07 PM   #67
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Looks like a reflection on the security glass (or transparent alumimum) if you ask me.
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Old December 11 2012, 09:09 PM   #68
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Sure, why not? I have no issue with Khan being revived,
I do. We had Space Seed, we had TWOK... More than enough, IMO.

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just that Cumby's not the guy to play him.
That too.

BTW, who does your avatars, Temis? You do them yourself? Love em, especially the current one.
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Old December 11 2012, 09:16 PM   #69
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This is Khan. This is the ONLY Khan. If you disagree, feel free to quit star trek
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Old December 11 2012, 09:17 PM   #70
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Has anyone noticed this picture/vidoescreen on Cumberbatch's arm? Alomost remoned me of an Orion slave girl.

Any ideas?
Frak it, I'm switching to Garthism once again! It's his girlfriend Marta. It's a shapeshifter duplicate scenario, not mind control.

If John Harrison is a pseudonym, it's gotta be more than just a fake name. How could he sneak past Starfleet security and make a speech? It must be John Harrison's physical presence somehow, either his literal body or a perfect duplicate
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Old December 11 2012, 09:19 PM   #71
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BTW, who does your avatars, Temis? You do them yourself? Love em, especially the current one.
Thanks - yeah they're my creations! The next one will be based on STID, I'm just waiting to find out the subject matter. There may be green skin in my future...
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Old December 11 2012, 09:23 PM   #72
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Or, y'know, they could have just decided "let's do a rogue officer and pick up some threads of that kind of plot in TOS... we can give him the name of an officer who was in the show but we didn't learn anything about, so then the completists can assume he's the JJVerse version of that guy... And, hey, if we admit he's a character from TOS, we can keep all the fans talking about it and doing our publicity for free."
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Old December 11 2012, 09:48 PM   #73
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^Yeah, I'm leaning to that one myself now.
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Old December 11 2012, 10:58 PM   #74
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This is Khan. This is the ONLY Khan. If you disagree, feel free to quit star trek
I think you have parts of this backwards...
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Old December 11 2012, 11:02 PM   #75
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A Starfleet officer named Harrison who's really a Section 31 agent, Klingons featured... anyone else reminded of Malcolm Reed in Enterprise's "Affliction"/"Divergence"?
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