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Old December 11 2012, 06:22 PM   #1
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JJ Abrams and Secrecy... anyone else tired of it?

Returning from the grave essentially to get the pulse on something about JJ Abrams that has always annoyed me: his obsession with secrecy on his projects.

I can't speak on Lost, Revolution or Fringe; never saw them and have no interest in them as of now. I did enjoy Cloverfield, Super 8, and at least was entertained by Trek XI... but I did not find them worth the secrecy and suspense JJ assembled around them. In the end, all three were rather pedantic, dime a dozen action movies with some entertaining qualities, but nothing that left me "WOW! That was worth not knowing anything!" Cloverfield in particular was guilty of this for me; in the end, it's a monster rampaging through New York City. There wasn't much added to it or done with it that made it worth the hype he had going. Hell, the trailers and the exclusive clip were the same thing: the Statue of Liberty's head rolling down Broadway, albeit it re-cut with other bits mixed in here and there.

What I'm getting that is this: while I understand some want to go in unspoiled and totally shocked, and that some want to maintain surprise in an age where it's almost impossible, at the same time I find it annoying. If your response to my question "What are you doing?" on every project is to put your finger to your lips, go 'Shhhhhhhh!' and close a curtain... at a certain point, I will not care about your projects. And I feel like I reaching that point with Abrams. Especially with this "John Harrison" thing.

So, maybe I'm just whining, but I wanted to hear from you guys... is Abrams' secrecy MO tiresome, or working for you?
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Old December 11 2012, 06:22 PM   #2
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No problem with it.
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Old December 11 2012, 06:24 PM   #3
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Re: JJ Abrams and Secrecy... anyone else tired of it?

When it generates this much entertainment by way of all the speculation and hand-wringing? Hell no!
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Old December 11 2012, 06:32 PM   #4
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Re: JJ Abrams and Secrecy... anyone else tired of it?

I'm ok with it.
It's a fun part of the waiting process. And it has entertaining effects on Trek fandom.
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Old December 11 2012, 06:37 PM   #5
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Re: JJ Abrams and Secrecy... anyone else tired of it?

I'm good with it. I have no problem with learning all the little stuff he's letting out now, but, I have no desire to have any twists revealed before I see the movie

I enjoy rewatching stuff, but, I want the first time to be without the twists spoiled.
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Old December 11 2012, 06:42 PM   #6
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Re: JJ Abrams and Secrecy... anyone else tired of it?

I have no problem with it. Some people obviously find it entertaining, and it's extremely easy to avoid if you don't.
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Old December 11 2012, 06:46 PM   #7
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Re: JJ Abrams and Secrecy... anyone else tired of it?

This

Robert Maxwell wrote: View Post
When it generates this much entertainment by way of all the speculation and hand-wringing? Hell no!
and this

SalvorHardin wrote: View Post
I'm ok with it.
It's a fun part of the waiting process. And it has entertaining effects on Trek fandom.
and this

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I'm good with it. I have no problem with learning all the little stuff he's letting out now, but, I have no desire to have any twists revealed before I see the movie

I enjoy rewatching stuff, but, I want the first time to be without the twists spoiled.
wrap it up quite nicely as far as I'm concerned.
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Old December 11 2012, 06:46 PM   #8
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Re: JJ Abrams and Secrecy... anyone else tired of it?

Tired? Nope.

He seems to know just how much to keep close to the vest and release enough tidbits of info to ramp up the excitement for the film's release.
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Old December 11 2012, 06:48 PM   #9
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Re: JJ Abrams and Secrecy... anyone else tired of it?

No problem at all. Speculation is fun. And it's impressive he does such a good job of keeping shit secret in the Internet age where everyone knows everything at all times.
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Old December 11 2012, 06:51 PM   #10
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The real question should, be "is everybody tired of how the internet spoils virtually every movie?"
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Old December 11 2012, 06:52 PM   #11
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Re: JJ Abrams and Secrecy... anyone else tired of it?

Sorry, USSManhattan. I'm loving it.
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Old December 11 2012, 06:53 PM   #12
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paudemge wrote: View Post
The real question should, be "is everybody tired of how the internet spoils virtually every movie?"
Exactly so!
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Old December 11 2012, 07:01 PM   #13
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Re: JJ Abrams and Secrecy... anyone else tired of it?

The secrecy is definitely better for "buzz".

Right now, everything is speculation, and every bit of those mounds of speculation is something we can all argue/discuss/debate. As it is now, the sky is the limit when it comes to possible plots and character MO's.

HOWEVER, once the plot is revealed, those mounds of speculation go away, and all we are left with is the actual plot and the actual character motivations to nitpick (and ST fans are sure to nitpick the plot).

So from the movie studio's standpoint, the secrecy is good because it creates greater amounts of speculative buzz and a whole lot less nitpicking.
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Old December 11 2012, 07:03 PM   #14
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Re: JJ Abrams and Secrecy... anyone else tired of it?

I really don't have a problem with it. My only problem was with Cloverfield. I liked the movie don't get me wrong, but there just was not enough of the monster in the movie. For all the secrecy of that movie the payoff was not large enough for me.
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Old December 11 2012, 07:05 PM   #15
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If it is going to be a Betrayal/False Flag Terrorism story which is pretty likely i definetly don't want to be spoiled. I want to be suprised.
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