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Old December 11 2012, 04:33 PM   #16
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Re: McWeeny has a theory about this movie

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OTOH, Cumberbatch (although he seems a bit bulkier and aged up) isn't old enough to be April
But he could still be Robert April's son ... John April.
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Old December 11 2012, 04:34 PM   #17
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Porky pies?
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Old December 11 2012, 04:39 PM   #18
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Cockney rhyming slang for lies. We're one people, separated by a common language.
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Old December 11 2012, 04:42 PM   #19
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Re: McWeeny has a theory about this movie

I would love it if this was true. I really like the idea of Robert April, the benevolent elder Captain from the prime universe, being reimagined as a vengeance-crazed threat to the fleet in this timeline. Appeals to me much more than Khan, Mitchell or George Lennon (or whatever he's called).
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Old December 11 2012, 04:45 PM   #20
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I would love it if this was true. I really like the idea of Robert April, the benevolent elder Captain from the prime universe, being reimagined as a vengeance-crazed threat to the fleet in this timeline. Appeals to me much more than Khan, Mitchell or George Lennon (or whatever he's called).
Could Robert April be played by Peter Weller?
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Old December 11 2012, 04:53 PM   #21
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I would love it if this was true. I really like the idea of Robert April, the benevolent elder Captain from the prime universe, being reimagined as a vengeance-crazed threat to the fleet in this timeline. Appeals to me much more than Khan, Mitchell or George Lennon (or whatever he's called).
I second that. McWeeny is a sharp guy, so I wouldn't be surprised if he nailed it again.
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Old December 11 2012, 05:04 PM   #22
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I would love it if this was true. I really like the idea of Robert April, the benevolent elder Captain from the prime universe, being reimagined as a vengeance-crazed threat to the fleet in this timeline. Appeals to me much more than Khan, Mitchell or George Lennon (or whatever he's called).
Could Robert April be played by Peter Weller?
Why not? The ultimate deception would be to keep letting out information that keeps people focused on speculating about Cumberbatch's character, while the truly big reveal will be Weller's character, who is getting little or no attention.

Problem is, it's been said Weller's character is new to canon. Wait. Technically, Robert April would be new to canon, wouldn't he? Hmm.

It may be April's gatling gun being used by Cumberbatch's character. Who knows?
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Old December 11 2012, 05:12 PM   #23
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Porky pies?
Cockney rhyming slang for lies. We're one people, separated by a common language.

Ah, okay, Mr. Shaw.

It's been suggested that Weller is playing Admiral Marcus, Carol's father who apparently appears in the movie.
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Old December 11 2012, 05:33 PM   #24
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Drew McWeeny, one-time "Moriarty" over at Ain't It Cool News, took the Into Darkness press tour over at Bad Robot yesterday.

He has a theory about what Abrams is doing with this movie.

But… one last thing. In the trailer, you've seen the shot where Cumberbatch jumps, lands, and then swats a dude using a huge long hunk of metal. Well, that hunk of metal is what the crew on the film called "The Big Gun." That's what we were told during our tour, and as everyone was discussing it, we were standing in a room that had been specially set up for today's event.

And on the counter at the back of the room, there was a big book of production art that was open. Laying right there were anyone could see it. And on one of the two pages, there was a concept design sketch for that gun. But instead of "The Big Gun," it was called "April's Gatling Gun."

As in the gun that April uses. The gun that seems to belong to Cumberbatch in the trailer, which would suggest that Cumberbatch is April.

You see what I mean about misdirection? What if they intentionally left that there, open to that page, in the exact area where everyone was standing, just to help obfuscate everything even more?

Or… even crazier… what if they really didn't think anyone would pay attention to that, and that's really what they're doing for this film?

What if someone is getting fired today at Bad Robot for leaving the book open to that page (or even having the book there in the first place)?
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Old December 11 2012, 07:29 PM   #25
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"April's Gatling Gun." Maybe the villain is actually named John Harrison and the name of the gun is simply his former commanding officer's who was killed in action. Maybe Harrison thought Starfleet abandoned them, left them to die at the hands of the Klingons or something, and now seeks revenge for it?

Now that commanding officer could still have been Robert April, and maybe he was in-command of a ship named Enterprise, just not the current one, I mean is there any reason why there couldn't have been a ship with that name prior to the NCC-1701? And if so, is it still around?
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Old December 11 2012, 07:35 PM   #26
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Could have even more fun with this, and give Captain April some of Garth's backstory (which would also explain the youthful appearance)...
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Old December 11 2012, 07:36 PM   #27
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Drew McWeeny, one-time "Moriarty" over at Ain't It Cool News, took the Into Darkness press tour over at Bad Robot yesterday.

He has a theory about what Abrams is doing with this movie.

But… one last thing. In the trailer, you've seen the shot where Cumberbatch jumps, lands, and then swats a dude using a huge long hunk of metal. Well, that hunk of metal is what the crew on the film called "The Big Gun." That's what we were told during our tour, and as everyone was discussing it, we were standing in a room that had been specially set up for today's event.

And on the counter at the back of the room, there was a big book of production art that was open. Laying right there were anyone could see it. And on one of the two pages, there was a concept design sketch for that gun. But instead of "The Big Gun," it was called "April's Gatling Gun."

As in the gun that April uses. The gun that seems to belong to Cumberbatch in the trailer, which would suggest that Cumberbatch is April.

You see what I mean about misdirection? What if they intentionally left that there, open to that page, in the exact area where everyone was standing, just to help obfuscate everything even more?

Or… even crazier… what if they really didn't think anyone would pay attention to that, and that's really what they're doing for this film?

What if someone is getting fired today at Bad Robot for leaving the book open to that page (or even having the book there in the first place)?
Or a promotion for the brilliant idea of scribbling Aprils name there and leaving it for curious eyes to discover.
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Old December 11 2012, 07:52 PM   #28
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I'm just glad they didn't name it Porthos' Gatling Gun...
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"Remember Porthos? He's not missing anymore. Porthos has rematerialized... and he's pissed." [/anncr voice]
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Old December 11 2012, 07:57 PM   #29
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OTOH, Cumberbatch (although he seems a bit bulkier and aged up) isn't old enough to be April
But he could still be Robert April's son ... John April.
Or Harrison April.
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Old December 11 2012, 11:47 PM   #30
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Re: New Info! (Bad Robot press event/villain ID'd, etc.) *SPOILERS*

OK so Harrison is actually Robert APRIL!!!???

http://www.hitfix.com/motion-capture...nto-darkness/3

I just saw there was a thread on this...oops...but...I NEVER THOUGHT of April...my favorite idea so far!!

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