New Info! (Bad Robot press event/villain ID'd, etc.) *SPOILERS* - Page 2

YellowSubmarine · December 11 2012, 07:59 AM

If it wasn't Khan, why would they deny it now? And John Harrison? What kind of fake name is that, nobody names their child that, let alone the villain. This is all more proof it is Khan. No way could Carol Marcus be part of a story without Khan.

Flux Capacitor · December 11 2012, 08:08 AM

YellowSubmarine wrote:

This is all more proof it is Khan. No way could Carol Marcus be part of a story without Khan.

Why not? Even without Khan she still retains her connection to Kirk in being his future baby mama.

Shilliam Watner · December 11 2012, 08:09 AM

YellowSubmarine wrote:

If it wasn't Khan, why would they deny it now? And John Harrison? What kind of fake name is that, nobody names their child that, let alone the villain. This is all more proof it is Khan. No way could Carol Marcus be part of a story without Khan.

Not true. Look, Bad Robot confirmed it tonight. Cumberbatch is Harrison. They are not going to market his character for this movie with a fake name.

Shilliam Watner · December 11 2012, 08:10 AM

Flux Capacitor wrote:

YellowSubmarine wrote:

This is all more proof it is Khan. No way could Carol Marcus be part of a story without Khan.

Why not? Even without Khan she still retains her connection to Kirk in being his future baby mama.

Exactly

cooleddie74 · December 11 2012, 08:12 AM

Besides, if you want to get really nerdy and anal about it Kirk was romantically involved and conceived his son with Carol years before he ever took command of the Enterprise and ran into the Botany Bay. In Prime timeline continuity Carol Marcus was a part of James Kirk's life long before he got captain's braids on his sleeves and ever came into contact with Khan Singh.

YellowSubmarine · December 11 2012, 08:13 AM

Flux Capacitor wrote:

Why not? Even without Khan she still retains her connection to Kirk in being his future baby mama.

Yes, but you see, you can't change the stories around and expand them, it makes fanboys like me cry.

Flux Capacitor · December 11 2012, 08:21 AM

YellowSubmarine wrote:

Flux Capacitor wrote:

Why not? Even without Khan she still retains her connection to Kirk in being his future baby mama.

Yes, but you see, you can't change the stories around and expand them, it makes fanboys like me cry.

Well Pike was on screen without Number One and no Talosians in sight...so I'm pretty sure Marcus can be seen sans Khan.

Enterprise is Great · December 11 2012, 10:11 AM

Shilliam Watner wrote:

YellowSubmarine wrote:

If it wasn't Khan, why would they deny it now? And John Harrison? What kind of fake name is that, nobody names their child that, let alone the villain. This is all more proof it is Khan. No way could Carol Marcus be part of a story without Khan.

Not true. Look, Bad Robot confirmed it tonight. Cumberbatch is Harrison. They are not going to market his character for this movie with a fake name.

It's been done before Liam Neeson was called Henri Ducard in the marketing for Batman Begins and for most of the fim until the end where they revealed he was Ra's al Ghul. If fact Christopher Nolan played that trick twice over the course of three Batman movies.

Donald Draper · December 11 2012, 10:15 AM

But those names where announced when filming began.

StarMan · December 11 2012, 10:59 AM

Well then. Everyone give a warm welcome to Mr. Harrison!

Therin of Andor · December 11 2012, 11:09 AM

What's the bets they find Khan's sleeper ship at the end of this movie, setting up for #3?

FreddyE · December 11 2012, 11:14 AM

John Harrison...uh? I´m pretty "blah" on that...but having Carol Marcus could be great.

Devon · December 11 2012, 11:40 AM

Enterprise is Great wrote:

One of the reasons fans are scratching their heads is because producer/co-writer Roberto Orci had previously stated that Cumberbatch was playing a character from Star Trek’s canon. Clearly ‘John Harrison’ is not from Trek’s canon. Tune in tomorrow to find out what both Alex Kurtzman and Roberto Orci had to say about this discrepancy.

I can't wait to see how they wiggle out of that "canon character" statement from July 2012.

To be fair, Orci commented in that article that day on TM.com, verbatim, "Correction, I lied about one of those."

GMDreia · December 11 2012, 11:52 AM

Therin of Andor wrote:

What's the bets they find Khan's sleeper ship at the end of this movie, setting up for #3?

Hee, I was thinking that too

I hope if they do, they do something different with Khan this time.

What made that story tragic is knowing it could've gone a different way... Khan with a world to tame, without its neighbor blowing up?

Franklin · December 11 2012, 01:40 PM

Trekmovie.com is reporting several new spoilers about the movie, including confirmation of the name of the villain. Cumberbatch is:

Don't go to the link below unless you want to be quite spoiled.

http://trekmovie.com/2012/12/10/alic...d-robot-visit/

December 11 2012, 07:59 AM	#16
YellowSubmarine Commodore	Re: New Info! (Bad Robot press event) SPOILERS If it wasn't Khan, why would they deny it now? And John Harrison? What kind of fake name is that, nobody names their child that, let alone the villain. This is all more proof it is Khan. No way could Carol Marcus be part of a story without Khan. __________________ R.I.P. Admiral James T. Kirk (2233-2267, 1969, 2267, 1930, 2267-2268, 1968, 2268-2269, Serpeidon Middle Ages, 2269, 2237, 2269-2286, 1986, 2286-2293, 2371)

December 11 2012, 08:12 AM	#20
cooleddie74 Fleet Admiral Location: The Warped Sector of the Demented Quadrant	Re: New Info! (Bad Robot press event) SPOILERS Besides, if you want to get really nerdy and anal about it Kirk was romantically involved and conceived his son with Carol years before he ever took command of the Enterprise and ran into the Botany Bay. In Prime timeline continuity Carol Marcus was a part of James Kirk's life long before he got captain's braids on his sleeves and ever came into contact with Khan Singh. __________________ This shirt is dry clean only. Which means it's dirty. -Mitch Hedberg

December 11 2012, 10:15 AM	#24
Donald Draper Fleet Captain	Re: New Info! (Bad Robot press event) SPOILERS But those names where announced when filming began.

December 11 2012, 10:59 AM	#25
StarMan Vice Admiral Location: New Zealand.	Re: New Info! (Bad Robot press event) SPOILERS Well then. Everyone give a warm welcome to Mr. Harrison! __________________ So... Shall we begin?

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December 11 2012, 11:14 AM	#27
FreddyE Commander	Re: New Info! (Bad Robot press event) SPOILERS John Harrison...uh? I´m pretty "blah" on that...but having Carol Marcus could be great.

December 11 2012, 01:40 PM	#30
Franklin Rear Admiral Location: In the bleachers	Confirmation(?) of Baddie Name (Spoiler Heavy) Trekmovie.com is reporting several new spoilers about the movie, including confirmation of the name of the villain. Cumberbatch is: John Harrison. Anthony Pascale has said he's confirmed it. Apparently, Orci will be explaining it, tomorrow. Don't go to the link below unless you want to be quite spoiled. http://trekmovie.com/2012/12/10/alic...d-robot-visit/ __________________ Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. -- Mark Twain