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Old December 8 2012, 12:56 AM   #16
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Re: The Almighty Star Trek Lit-verse Reading Order Flow Chart, Mark II

Awesome work! Thrawn's original flowchart helped me put together a chronological list of the novels because that's how I wanted to read them for some reason. It's nice to see someone take that chart and update/refine it further.
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Old December 8 2012, 01:17 AM   #17
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Great job!
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Old December 8 2012, 02:58 AM   #18
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Fantastic! This is very helpful thanks.
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Old December 8 2012, 07:34 PM   #19
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Great job!!
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Old December 9 2012, 12:46 AM   #20
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You guys did an awesome job
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Old December 11 2012, 06:38 AM   #21
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I like the flow-chart, although I personally would've included more than a single direct 'link-line' from the DS9-R to its Typhon Pact continuations (RBoE, ZSG, PoN, and RtD) and placed the latter four in chronological order.
Funny, I wouldn't have been able to resist adding a box between DS9-R and Typhon Pact, reading only:

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Old December 11 2012, 06:58 AM   #22
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Funny, I wouldn't have been able to resist adding a box between DS9-R and Typhon Pact, reading only:

"[ ? ? ? ]"
What?
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Old December 11 2012, 02:14 PM   #23
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The missing Ascendants arc.
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Old December 11 2012, 07:20 PM   #24
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^ It's not 'missing'; it just hasn't been told in full.

I also don't see why that's a problem AT ALL or how/why it warranted a stupid comment that makes absolutely zero sense in any context whatsoever.
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Old December 11 2012, 08:08 PM   #25
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Re: The Almighty Star Trek Lit-verse Reading Order Flow Chart, Mark II

Good thing to throw a hissy fit about it then.

If it made 'absolutely zero sense in any context whatsoever' then I wouldn't have immediately known what he was talking about.
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Old December 12 2012, 07:33 AM   #26
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Re: The Almighty Star Trek Lit-verse Reading Order Flow Chart, Mark II

chrinFinity wrote: View Post
DigificWriter wrote: View Post
I like the flow-chart, although I personally would've included more than a single direct 'link-line' from the DS9-R to its Typhon Pact continuations (RBoE, ZSG, PoN, and RtD) and placed the latter four in chronological order.
Funny, I wouldn't have been able to resist adding a box between DS9-R and Typhon Pact, reading only:

"[ ? ? ? ]"
Ha! Nice.
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Old December 13 2012, 03:41 AM   #27
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Re: The Almighty Star Trek Lit-verse Reading Order Flow Chart, Mark II

Thanks everyone, glad you all like it!

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This is the best community, I swear. I did monthly review threads with identical polls for a couple years - along comes Sho, taking all those, standardizing them, and writing a program to collect and compare them. Boom. I do a flowchart to explain some continuity concepts - along comes 8of5, to host and vastly improve it.
One wonders what you will come up with next to complete the hattrick.

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I like the flow-chart, although I personally would've included more than a single direct 'link-line' from the DS9-R to its Typhon Pact continuations (RBoE, ZSG, PoN, and RtD) and placed the latter four in chronological order.
Well, it seemed quite linear to me, the line from the bottom of the whole DS9 block goes into the box with ZSG and RBoE, and then a line comes out of that box to lead you to RoN and RtD, because they follow on directly from RBoE. There's also another line coming out of Worlds of DS9 to take you over to Paths of Disharmony.

I did forget about the chronology of RBoE and ZSG though. There are a few places where it favours publication order over chronology (Rising Son for example), but I cant recall any particular reason to read them in publication order this time. So maybe will swap next update.

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Chronological order? Good idea, Imho.

That makes me think: Would it be a good idea to add dates to the publications?

For example:
Indistinguishable from Magic
(2383)
Or would this gimmick be a cluttering overkill?
I did think about going even further and having everything arranged spatially to make it conform to a timeline (maybe with lines or boxes going across to show dates). However I quickly realised that would mean spacing things out an awful lot and making it even more ginormous!

I can see the appeal of adding in dates, but it would add another layer of information, and with all the crossing over you get a good ideal of how things align date-wise already, even if the odd book or two aren't listed in perfect chronological order between crossovers.

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The Reeves-Stevens' Millennium should be listed with DS9.
I've not read them, do they tie into the wider lit-verse?
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Old December 13 2012, 05:53 AM   #28
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The Reeves-Stevens' Millennium should be listed with DS9.
I've not read them, do they tie into the wider lit-verse?
First, you really should read them, they're great. (Imho.)

As to whether or not they tie in... mmm, good question. There was actually a discussion here a while back on the trilogy (lots and lots of spoilers, though, so you probably shouldn't read it yourself, 8of5): http://www.trekbbs.com/showthread.ph...ight=Millenium Towards the end of that discussion, if I recall correctly, we got to talking about how Millenium does and does not fit in with DS9-R's continuity. FWIW, my feeling is that it basically does, if you squint in one or two places. OTOH, it doesn't really matter because...

Without giving stuff away, I can say that most of the story is pretty self-contained. Some very interesting "world-building"-esque about material about the end of the Occupation, the station itself, and the characters. And, perhaps most significantly, the Prophets and the Wormhole (though somewhat indirectly). Great background-level expansion, but very little that is followed-up in other books, plot-wise (at least, from what I can remember).

I tend to think of Millenium as the DS9 movie hexalogy that never was, one that aired after "WYLB" but before the televised version of Avatar/A Stitch In Time/The Lives of Dax/whichever novel would've gotten aired first.
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Old December 14 2012, 06:16 AM   #29
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Re: The Almighty Star Trek Lit-verse Reading Order Flow Chart, Mark II

Excellent work on this guys. Apart from helping newbies, it's also an excellent guide to us old pros in keeping everything in good order.
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Very impressive work. Well done, both of you!
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