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Old December 11 2012, 04:04 AM   #61
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Re: And Cumberbatch?s Character Is?

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"If you went back in time to 1920 and bought enough watercolours off this Austrian ex-corporal, you could have averted World War II... or could you? Would time find some ironic way to stop you?"
Godwin's Law strikes again!
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Old December 11 2012, 04:19 AM   #62
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Re: And Cumberbatch's Character Is? [spoilers]

Maybe at the end it will be revealed that his real first name is Robin.
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Old December 11 2012, 04:27 AM   #63
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Re: And Cumberbatch's Character Is? [spoilers]

I just can't see getting worked up about this. The writers and producers of NuTrek have a pretty good record of fucking with the fans. Is he really supposed to be Harrison T Backgroundski from TOS? Maybe. Maybe he's really Garth and this is all part of JJ's elaborate scheme to get fans worked up. Maybe the secrecy is just his own weird fetish. It's not like you don't expect to see feet in a Tarantino flick.
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Old December 11 2012, 04:37 AM   #64
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John Harrison is probably a pseudonym for Henri Ducard.
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Old December 11 2012, 04:49 AM   #65
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I think his real name is Dick Whitman.
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Old December 11 2012, 04:58 AM   #66
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John Harrison is probably a pseudonym for Henri Ducard.
Which rhymes with Picard.... BINGO - Cumberbatch is really playing Shinzon.
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Old December 11 2012, 04:59 AM   #67
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Re: And Cumberbatch's Character Is? [spoilers]

I love how people are actually denying who he is once revealed. Good job on obfuscation and misdirection, JJ & Co...
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Old December 11 2012, 05:15 AM   #68
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I love how you actually don't know that.
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Old December 11 2012, 05:18 AM   #69
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I don't and never claim I did - but they have claimed it - it very well could be a pseudonym and they very well could be telling the full truth now. The point is they're so good at misdirection and half-truths that everyone is still guessing.

That said, I do think they're telling the truth this time.
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Old December 11 2012, 05:50 AM   #70
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Well, I've got to admit to reading who Cumberpatch would be playing and going "Whaaat???" I've been convinced for long time it was either Gary Mitchell or Khan. I certainly wasn't expecting him to be a background character that far in the background. Haha. I'm still thinking "that can't be who he's playing, can it? Damn. Talk about anti climatic..." Nobody's gonna know who John Harrison is. Hell, I'm 43 and I've been a fan all of my life and I didn't recognize the name at all.
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Old December 11 2012, 05:58 AM   #71
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I think, pseudonym or not, this is excludes Mitchell. If it IS a pseudonym Mitchell was already in the comic so Kirk and Spock should know his name. Calling himself Harrison would be pointless. If they are changing Mitchell's backstory and leaving the plot of the comic out entirely then there's still no really good reason for Mitchell to go by Harrison.
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Old December 11 2012, 05:58 AM   #72
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The preview has me convinced that he's Garth. Cumberbatch was carrying himself with the regal madness of a great man who has fallen. To me that screams the Hero of Axanar more than Mitchell.
The only reason I've backed off Garthism is that Cumby is just too young to play the character. He's the same age as Pine, and Garth should be Pike's contemporary.

The possession angle seems right. Mitchell is still aaaalllivvve and took over this poor Harrison chump. Thus Cumby is playing two roles. This gives Abrams a golden opprotunity to frak with us on a technicality. I wouldn't be entirely surprised if that was the reason behind this plot twist.
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Old December 11 2012, 06:05 AM   #73
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The preview has me convinced that he's Garth. Cumberbatch was carrying himself with the regal madness of a great man who has fallen. To me that screams the Hero of Axanar more than Mitchell.
The only reason I've backed off Garthism is that Cumby is just too young to play the character. He's the same age as Pine, and Garth should be Pike's contemporary.

The possession angle seems right. Mitchell is still aaaalllivvve and took over this poor Harrison chump. Thus Cumby is playing two roles. This gives Abrams a golden opprotunity to frak with us on a technicality. I wouldn't be entirely surprised if that was the reason behind this plot twist.
Unless Garth is being played by Peter Weller who is impersonating Harrison and at the end he'll change back to fight Kirk.
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Old December 11 2012, 06:08 AM   #74
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Has anyone ID'd who Weller is playing yet?
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Old December 11 2012, 06:40 AM   #75
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I think Cumberbatch's character is Finnegan.
http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Finnegan
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