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Old December 11 2012, 01:52 AM   #31
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Re: And Cumberbatch?s Character Is?

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Wouldn't be the first time.


I doubt Orci and Kurtzman even knew who this Lt. Harrison joker was.
How do you know? They have access to information at Paramount that we are not privy of. It could have been that Roddenberry had a backstory for Lt Harrison kept in the archives. Only Orci and Kurtzman would have knowledge of this.
Do you actually think Roddenberry created a backstory for a background character, played by an extra who barely had any lines? He barely created backstories for "regulars" like Uhura and Sulu!!!
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Old December 11 2012, 01:53 AM   #32
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No way they're releasing the real name of the villain in such a nonchallant manner. A caption on a still from the film? After all the secrecy? Way too anticlimatic.
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Old December 11 2012, 01:54 AM   #33
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Film Thrasher from the Bad Robot press conference is confirming ALice Eve is playing Carol Marcus, and that two Klingons will have the same appearance as TOS, i.e. no ridges. IGN is reporting this too from twitter at the conference.


http://www.filmthrasher.com/2012/12/...firmed-to.html
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Old December 11 2012, 01:55 AM   #34
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I figured Eve was going to be Carol Marcus - I actually kind of like the ridgeless Klingons. Makes it extra cool that they wear the ridged battle helmets. Maybe we'll get a good story explanation for it...
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Old December 11 2012, 01:58 AM   #35
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I doubt Orci and Kurtzman even knew who this Lt. Harrison joker was.
How do you know? They have access to information at Paramount that we are not privy of. It could have been that Roddenberry had a backstory for Lt Harrison kept in the archives. Only Orci and Kurtzman would have knowledge of this.
Do you actually think Roddenberry created a backstory for a background character, played by an extra who barely had any lines? He barely created backstories for "regulars" like Uhura and Sulu!!!
Possibly. Chekov hardly ever had any lines of importance. It's possible Harrison's had lines but were deleted in scripts or edited out.
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Old December 11 2012, 01:59 AM   #36
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They have treated Enterprise as common back story for this and the prime universe. mostly they are Deformed Klingons who feel shame.
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Old December 11 2012, 02:01 AM   #37
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Yeah, but that wasn't a good story. I want a good story for why they're ridgeless.
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Old December 11 2012, 02:06 AM   #38
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They have treated Enterprise as common back story for this and the prime universe. .
And don't forget that updated NX-01 looking starship out of control crashing into San Francisco Bay in the teaser.
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Old December 11 2012, 02:06 AM   #39
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Yeah, but that wasn't a good story. I want a good story for why they're ridgeless.
Hear that, Paramount? Bishop76 isn't happy with the canon! Better do something about it! Or else...



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And don't forget that updated NX-01 looking starship out of control crashing into San Francisco Bay in the teaser.
Huh? It's impossible to make out any of the distinctive features on that ship.
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Old December 11 2012, 02:08 AM   #40
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Yeah, but that wasn't a good story. I want a good story for why they're ridgeless.
Hear that, Paramount? Bishop76 isn't happy with the canon! Better do something about it! Or else...

Do you honestly think that anyone at Paramount cares about what fans consider "canon"? They created an alternate universe Trek just so they wouldn't HAVE to worry about that. I hate to shatter your illusions, but if ignoring anything fans consider canon would make them $10 more on this film, they'd do it without a second thought.
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Old December 11 2012, 02:12 AM   #41
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Simpler explanation: Maybe the villain starts out as member of Kirk's crew and, just for fun, they chose the name of some minor spear carrier from TOS. Lord knows there are plenty of lists of Kirk's crew floating around. I've been known to consult them when I need a random crew member to push a button . . . . .
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Old December 11 2012, 02:13 AM   #42
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^ Obviously? How do you figure?
Because it's ridiculously stupid, that's why.

I'll tell you what: If BC's character turns out to be the same guy as some random extra who nobody knows, I'll run naked throughout my neighborhood and have my wife film it so you can see it. That's how confident I am that it's not him.

Deal?
Promise to have it be your wife running through the neighborhood naked while you film it, and it's a deal.

Actually, you're 100% correct. Can you imagine the big reveal? The villain is, drum-roll, please. John Harrison! See? See what we did there? Harrison. He was in "Space Seed". That's the link to Khan. And we gave him a first name. John. It's a play on the members of The Beatles. You know. The band Paul McCartney used to play with.

As it is now, who the villain is will to have to make people audibly gasp when the name finally comes out, or it's all anti-climactic.
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Old December 11 2012, 02:17 AM   #43
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Re: And Cumberbatch?s Character Is?

Cumberbatch is going to play Kodos the Executioner. I'd bet my reputation as a cage fighter on it.
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Old December 11 2012, 02:17 AM   #44
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I must admit, the idea that a quiet, good but unspectacular officer becomes this awesome engine of destruction in another life is pretty cool.
Me too. I hope this is the route they plan to take. (If it is Harrison; I still have doubts.) Yes, it would more or less be a Shinzon retread, but NEM was essentially (and poorly) limited to the nurture v. nature thing. This could potentially be a lot more epic.
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Old December 11 2012, 02:18 AM   #45
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Is there, like, an agreement around here to just disregard Anthony Pascale's article? You know, the one in which he writes: "TrekMovie has also confirmed this with a number of sources so we no longer consider it to be a rumor. Khan is back in 2013."
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