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Old December 10 2012, 04:13 PM   #31
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Re: First glimpse of new TARDIS control room!

Yeah, like the bosses at BBC Wales being more interested in empire building than the basic work of just getting on with making the programmes they've already got.

"I've had a great idea..."
"Oh no, I can feel one of my headaches coming on..."
"We're going to build a new studio!"
"What's wrong with the current one?"
"Not big enough for all the shows like Casualty we're going to make here."
"They make Casualty in Bristol."
"Not any more. I've persuaded the BBC Trust to say that only drama centres like Cardiff can make drama. Not Natural History centres like Bristol."
"How do we afford to build the new studio?"
"Take it out of this year's production budget."
"How do we pay to make our existing programmes as well?"
"We can't. We'll just have to stop making them for half a year."
"What about the TARDIS set? When we built the last new studios we decided we'd never need to move it, so it can't be moved."
"Build a new one!"
"I can definitely feel one of my headaches coming on.
"And I've got another idea."
"Definitely feeling one of my headaches coming on..."
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Old December 10 2012, 09:07 PM   #32
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Re: First glimpse of new TARDIS control room!

Empire building is a thing with you Brits, no?

Hum, I do find it a little weird that they spent cash to refurb the "11.1" console room set (sic), and then barely use it before building the 11.2.

They had added a lot more coral to the opposite wall (which had previously been an almost featureless gray wall), rearranged some of the lower entrances, and most noticeably added a large "spiderweb" construct in one corner. Then they added some small details like the larger carpet in the entrance, etc. to make it look a bit more lived in.

The thing about the 11.1 set is that while it allowed for true 360 degree shooting (the 9/10 console room was only 2/3 of a set and didn't have, among things, an internal door), but still missed out on some angles and had at least one place where depending on where you were standing, you could see the walls of the studio beyond. Also strangely, the ceiling of the set didn't join directly to the walls around it; this is obstensibly to allow extra lighting to be added as needed that was hooked to the lighting grid overhead. So while the 11.1 set was larger and allowed far more dynamic shooting, it still had noticeable gaps and odd openings in it.

Rumour has it that the 11.2 is a smaller, gloomier set that reflects the Doctor's gloomier, solitary lifestyle of late. When on his lonesome he arguably doesn't NEED tons of space (how often does ANYONE sit down in the console room, anyway?) but with Clara joining the crew now, I wonder if it will be incrementally changed. The picture looks pretty cold, perhaps they'll warm it up over the eight episodes?

At the very least, I do hope they'll maintain the 11.1 set's multiple levels and exits. Moffatt has stated that the TARDIS regenerated / remodelled itself with the Doctor's own regeneration as an influence, thus explaining the chaotic look and feel. If that edict carries over to where we find him next (mentally anyway), there may be a lot of dark corners and sharp angles, not unlike some of the pre-prod art that was posted in this thread. Also, I hope we can get a 360-degree set again, as with this year's cinematic style it wouldn't surprise me that they were pushing the limits of the 11.1. British sets have a strong theatre legacy in them, and as a cause or result it often looks like they're shooting a stage play - so even with the current st they're still shooting mostly from the featureless grey wall (thus putting it on the low end of the priorities list to refurbish or add detail). This is in contrast to, say, Star Trek, where the bridge or whatever will be a full set with walls and ceiling bits that are removed as needed to allow the cameras and lights to be set up. The 11.1 was apparently not built to have walls move, according to previous posts.

I guess we'll find out in a matter of days! We in the audience, and the Doctor himself always like that first time someone new walks into his machine. I expect we'll be blown away. This was an unexpected change, but change IS good, and it's what this show is all about.

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Old December 11 2012, 09:43 AM   #33
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...but with Clara joining the crew now, I wonder if it will be incrementally changed. The picture looks pretty cold, perhaps they'll warm it up over the eight episodes?
Hopefully a shower set. For Clara.

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Old December 11 2012, 10:25 AM   #34
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Old December 11 2012, 03:12 PM   #35
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diankra wrote: View Post
Yeah, like the bosses at BBC Wales being more interested in empire building than the basic work of just getting on with making the programmes they've already got.

"I've had a great idea..."
"Oh no, I can feel one of my headaches coming on..."
"We're going to build a new studio!"
"What's wrong with the current one?"
"Not big enough for all the shows like Casualty we're going to make here."
"They make Casualty in Bristol."
"Not any more. I've persuaded the BBC Trust to say that only drama centres like Cardiff can make drama. Not Natural History centres like Bristol."
"How do we afford to build the new studio?"
"Take it out of this year's production budget."
"How do we pay to make our existing programmes as well?"
"We can't. We'll just have to stop making them for half a year."
"What about the TARDIS set? When we built the last new studios we decided we'd never need to move it, so it can't be moved."
"Build a new one!"
"I can definitely feel one of my headaches coming on.
"And I've got another idea."
"Definitely feeling one of my headaches coming on..."
So true! Take it from a Bristol-based actor, losing Casualty to Cardiff was a pain in the backside.
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Old December 11 2012, 03:18 PM   #36
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So true! Take it from a Bristol-based actor, losing Casualty to Cardiff was a pain in the backside.
But it was a price worth paying to increase regional drama production! Somehow (in purple sky world).
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Old December 11 2012, 05:51 PM   #37
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I kinda agree. It would have been fun to have the new design just turn up unexpectedly.

Feeling hopeful about this one. I hope it ends up looking more "Time and Space Machine" and less "Explosion in an antique store".
Could not agree more... I liked the organic feeling of the control room but then the makeover to match 12's eccentricities was a bit much...
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Old December 11 2012, 08:33 PM   #38
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It's times like this (the only time I'd consider it) that the 'like' function from Facebook was on boards like these...
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Old December 11 2012, 09:35 PM   #39
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I kinda agree. It would have been fun to have the new design just turn up unexpectedly.

Feeling hopeful about this one. I hope it ends up looking more "Time and Space Machine" and less "Explosion in an antique store".
Could not agree more... I liked the organic feeling of the control room but then the makeover to match 12's eccentricities was a bit much...
Hey, watch the Spoilers, the rest of us haven't even seen the fall of the 11th yet
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Old December 11 2012, 10:37 PM   #40
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^ Fcuking time-travellers. Coming to our year, spoiling our shows...
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Old December 12 2012, 02:45 AM   #41
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Re: First glimpse of new TARDIS control room!

Here's a bit more revealed, courtesy of another forum.

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Old December 12 2012, 03:00 AM   #42
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^ Fcuking time-travellers. Coming to our year, spoiling our shows...

The line must be drawn HERE!!!!
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Old December 12 2012, 01:36 PM   #43
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Hum! Echoes of the 9/10 console room are felt here, with lit tubes in thr time column and the railing on the balcony beyond. Also a decidedly less organic look and feel... And look out, no more sex toy in the middle?

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Old December 12 2012, 02:06 PM   #44
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I like what I see here. A colder, darker Tardis. Now to see how it translates to the screen.
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Old December 12 2012, 04:14 PM   #45
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Hum! Echoes of the 9/10 console room are felt here, with lit tubes in thr time column and the railing on the balcony beyond. Also a decidedly less organic look and feel... And look out, no more sex toy in the middle?

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The white reminds me most of the oldschool TARDIS, e.g., Fourth Doctor, etc. I'm not seeing 10th Doctor at all.
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