THE HOBBIT (2012/2013): News, Rumors, Pics Till Release - Page 91

Samuel Walters · December 10 2012, 12:45 AM

Mr Light wrote:

Personally I would move the Dol Guldur battle to the end of the trilogy. To me it's much more important plot-wise than the 5 Armies. Because they're pitching this as The Lord of the Rings Prequel and not just the Hobbit. So Gandalf and Sauron and Galadriel fighting Sauron is much more LOTR-important than dwarves and elves and orcs fighting over some treasure.

I hadn't considered that option ... and I see what you mean, thematically speaking. But it'd be a logistical nightmare to get Gandalf from the BoFA to Dol Guldur, then back to Bilbo in time for their return journey to the north of the Misty Mountains.

Set Harth · December 10 2012, 01:45 AM

He's the Goddamn Olorin.

Mr Light · December 10 2012, 04:40 AM

I haven't read Hobbit in forever, I didn't remember that Gandalf was at 5 Armies. I remember him being conspicuously absent for almost the entire story...

Dream · December 10 2012, 04:55 AM

Samuel Walters wrote:

Mr Light wrote:

Personally I would move the Dol Guldur battle to the end of the trilogy. To me it's much more important plot-wise than the 5 Armies. Because they're pitching this as The Lord of the Rings Prequel and not just the Hobbit. So Gandalf and Sauron and Galadriel fighting Sauron is much more LOTR-important than dwarves and elves and orcs fighting over some treasure.

I hadn't considered that option ... and I see what you mean, thematically speaking. But it'd be a logistical nightmare to get Gandalf from the BoFA to Dol Guldur, then back to Bilbo in time for their return journey to the north of the Misty Mountains.

Can't they just say "A Wizard did it"?

Emh · December 10 2012, 08:29 AM

Mr Light wrote:

I haven't read Hobbit in forever, I didn't remember that Gandalf was at 5 Armies. I remember him being conspicuously absent for almost the entire story...

Gandalf remains with the Company all the way until they enter Mirkwood (except when he disappears briefly prior to the encounter with the trolls and when they're briefly separated in Misty Mountains). He doesn't return until the gathering of the 5 armies, but as Samuel Walters already said, he was in the process of returning to them as they were arriving in Laketown.

Neroon · December 11 2012, 12:44 AM

For those who might like a little help when going to see the movie...

Unicron · December 11 2012, 01:11 AM

Nice.

Emh · December 11 2012, 03:55 AM

This is making the rounds on Facebook right now. Great stuff.

Neroon · December 11 2012, 08:52 PM

That's where I picked it up. For me it's a really good idea, provided I can find a small red-light to shine on it during the movie

propita · December 11 2012, 10:08 PM

Alidar Jarok wrote:

I remember a little while ago, I saw the trailer and saw rock giants in the Misty Mountains and thought "well now they're just padding. No way that happened in the book." Then I re-read it and found out that, yeah, it's in the book.

It's simply not possible to tell this story in one or likely two parts without cutting things out. Now you may think they should cut things out, but he's not really adding things.

I agree. And often, some background must be given, to either define the character or scene or give the audience a reason to care about the character. To me, that's not "filler" Ina bad sense, it's filling in the background.

When I read The Hobbit years ago, I was "who is Bard, etc?" Id gone though most of the book and now theres some humans that I'm supposed to root for in some way? Background would be welcome, if it's done well.

JD · December 12 2012, 04:47 AM

That chart is funny. I hadn't seen it before coming to the thread.

Neroon · December 13 2012, 02:17 PM

Time to bring back a seasonal classic Fox Trot comic, to help celebrate the opening of "The Hobbit":

Emh · December 14 2012, 12:18 AM

It's times like this I miss Fox Trot. It was at its best when it was full-on nerdy.

Alidar Jarok · December 14 2012, 01:00 AM

It's still around on Sundays, no?

Harvey · December 14 2012, 01:24 AM

Yeah, but it's just not the same as when it was a weekly strip and Amend could tell extended stories.

December 10 2012, 01:45 AM	#1352
Set Harth Commodore Location: Ekkaia	Re: THE HOBBIT (2012/2013): News, Rumors, Pics Till Release He's the Goddamn Olorin. __________________ Are you casting aspersions on my asparagus?

December 10 2012, 04:40 AM	#1353
Mr Light Admiral Location: Pennsylvania	Re: THE HOBBIT (2012/2013): News, Rumors, Pics Till Release I haven't read Hobbit in forever, I didn't remember that Gandalf was at 5 Armies. I remember him being conspicuously absent for almost the entire story... __________________

December 11 2012, 12:44 AM	#1356
Neroon Memory and awareness Location: On my ship the Rocinante, wheeling thru the galaxy	Re: THE HOBBIT (2012/2013): News, Rumors, Pics Till Release For those who might like a little help when going to see the movie... __________________ “You break through the veil whenever you strap on a sword or chant the ancient verses. You escape when you write a poem or a tale that brings beauty into the world. You are set free whenever you love—even those who believe you’re crazy." ~ Jef Murray, 'Seer: A Wizard's Journal'

December 11 2012, 01:11 AM	#1357
Unicron Continuity Spackle Location: Seeking harmony	Re: THE HOBBIT (2012/2013): News, Rumors, Pics Till Release Nice. __________________ "My dream is to eat candy and poop emeralds. I'm halfway successful." Catbert, Evil Director of Human Resources

December 11 2012, 03:55 AM	#1358
Emh The Doctor Location: Japan	Re: THE HOBBIT (2012/2013): News, Rumors, Pics Till Release This is making the rounds on Facebook right now. Great stuff. __________________ "Eccleston was a tiger and Tennant was, well, Tigger. Smith [is] an uncoordinated housecat who pretends that he meant to do that after falling off a piece of furniture." - Lynne M. Thomas "I'm in Hell and it's full of Avons!" - Vila

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December 11 2012, 08:52 PM	#1359
Neroon Memory and awareness Location: On my ship the Rocinante, wheeling thru the galaxy	Re: THE HOBBIT (2012/2013): News, Rumors, Pics Till Release That's where I picked it up. For me it's a really good idea, provided I can find a small red-light to shine on it during the movie __________________ “You break through the veil whenever you strap on a sword or chant the ancient verses. You escape when you write a poem or a tale that brings beauty into the world. You are set free whenever you love—even those who believe you’re crazy." ~ Jef Murray, 'Seer: A Wizard's Journal'

December 12 2012, 04:47 AM	#1361
JD Admiral Location: Arizona, USA	Re: THE HOBBIT (2012/2013): News, Rumors, Pics Till Release That chart is funny. I hadn't seen it before coming to the thread. __________________ Over the course of many encounters and many years, I have successfully developed a standard operating procedure for dealing with big, nasty monsters. Run away. Me and Monty Python. Harry Dresden - Blood Rites (The Dresden Files #6)

December 14 2012, 12:18 AM	#1363
Emh The Doctor Location: Japan	Re: THE HOBBIT (2012/2013): News, Rumors, Pics Till Release It's times like this I miss Fox Trot. It was at its best when it was full-on nerdy. __________________ "Eccleston was a tiger and Tennant was, well, Tigger. Smith [is] an uncoordinated housecat who pretends that he meant to do that after falling off a piece of furniture." - Lynne M. Thomas "I'm in Hell and it's full of Avons!" - Vila

December 14 2012, 01:00 AM	#1364
Alidar Jarok Everything in moderation but moderation Location: Arlington, VA	Re: THE HOBBIT (2012/2013): News, Rumors, Pics Till Release It's still around on Sundays, no? __________________ When on Romulus, Do as the Romulans

December 14 2012, 01:24 AM	#1365
Harvey Admiral	Re: THE HOBBIT (2012/2013): News, Rumors, Pics Till Release Yeah, but it's just not the same as when it was a weekly strip and Amend could tell extended stories. __________________ "What do you hear, Starbuck?" "Nothing but the rain, sir." "Then grab your gun and bring in the cat."