RSS iconTwitter iconFacebook icon

The Trek BBS title image

The Trek BBS statistics

Threads: 139,668
Posts: 5,429,427
Members: 24,821
Currently online: 417
Newest member: SB118_Laxyn


Welcome! The Trek BBS is the number one place to chat about Star Trek with like-minded fans. Please login to see our full range of forums as well as the ability to send and receive private messages, track your favourite topics and of course join in the discussions.

If you are a new visitor, join us for free. If you are an existing member please login below. Note: for members who joined under our old messageboard system, please login with your display name not your login name.


Go Back   The Trek BBS > Entertainment & Interests > Science Fiction & Fantasy

Science Fiction & Fantasy Farscape, Babylon 5, Star Wars, Firefly, vampires, genre books and film.

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old December 10 2012, 12:45 AM   #1351
Ancient Mariner
Rear Admiral
 
Ancient Mariner's Avatar
 
Location: Sailing for adventure on the Big Blue Wet Thing™
View Ancient Mariner's Twitter Profile
Re: THE HOBBIT (2012/2013): News, Rumors, Pics Till Release

Mr Light wrote: View Post
Personally I would move the Dol Guldur battle to the end of the trilogy. To me it's much more important plot-wise than the 5 Armies. Because they're pitching this as The Lord of the Rings Prequel and not just the Hobbit. So Gandalf and Sauron and Galadriel fighting Sauron is much more LOTR-important than dwarves and elves and orcs fighting over some treasure.
I hadn't considered that option ... and I see what you mean, thematically speaking. But it'd be a logistical nightmare to get Gandalf from the BoFA to Dol Guldur, then back to Bilbo in time for their return journey to the north of the Misty Mountains.
__________________
Ancient Mariner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old December 10 2012, 01:45 AM   #1352
Set Harth
Rear Admiral
 
Set Harth's Avatar
 
Location: Police State
Re: THE HOBBIT (2012/2013): News, Rumors, Pics Till Release

He's the Goddamn Olorin.
__________________
"Your advertising's just dandy. Folks'd never guess you ain't got a thing to sell."
Set Harth is offline   Reply With Quote
Old December 10 2012, 04:40 AM   #1353
Mr Light
Admiral
 
Location: Pennsylvania
Re: THE HOBBIT (2012/2013): News, Rumors, Pics Till Release

I haven't read Hobbit in forever, I didn't remember that Gandalf was at 5 Armies. I remember him being conspicuously absent for almost the entire story...
__________________

Mr Light is offline   Reply With Quote
Old December 10 2012, 04:55 AM   #1354
Dream
Admiral
 
Dream's Avatar
 
Re: THE HOBBIT (2012/2013): News, Rumors, Pics Till Release

Samuel Walters wrote: View Post
Mr Light wrote: View Post
Personally I would move the Dol Guldur battle to the end of the trilogy. To me it's much more important plot-wise than the 5 Armies. Because they're pitching this as The Lord of the Rings Prequel and not just the Hobbit. So Gandalf and Sauron and Galadriel fighting Sauron is much more LOTR-important than dwarves and elves and orcs fighting over some treasure.
I hadn't considered that option ... and I see what you mean, thematically speaking. But it'd be a logistical nightmare to get Gandalf from the BoFA to Dol Guldur, then back to Bilbo in time for their return journey to the north of the Misty Mountains.
Can't they just say "A Wizard did it"?
Dream is offline   Reply With Quote
Old December 10 2012, 08:29 AM   #1355
Emh
Doctor of TARDIS
 
Emh's Avatar
 
Location: Brussels, Belgium
Send a message via ICQ to Emh Send a message via AIM to Emh Send a message via Windows Live Messenger to Emh Send a message via Yahoo to Emh
Re: THE HOBBIT (2012/2013): News, Rumors, Pics Till Release

Mr Light wrote: View Post
I haven't read Hobbit in forever, I didn't remember that Gandalf was at 5 Armies. I remember him being conspicuously absent for almost the entire story...
Gandalf remains with the Company all the way until they enter Mirkwood (except when he disappears briefly prior to the encounter with the trolls and when they're briefly separated in Misty Mountains). He doesn't return until the gathering of the 5 armies, but as Samuel Walters already said, he was in the process of returning to them as they were arriving in Laketown.
__________________
"Eccleston was a tiger and Tennant was, well, Tigger. Smith [is] an uncoordinated housecat who pretends that he meant to do that after falling off a piece of furniture." - Lynne M. Thomas

"I'm in Hell and it's full of Avons!" - Vila
Emh is offline   Reply With Quote
Old December 11 2012, 12:44 AM   #1356
Neroon
Mod of balance
 
Neroon's Avatar
 
Location: On my ship the Rocinante
Re: THE HOBBIT (2012/2013): News, Rumors, Pics Till Release

For those who might like a little help when going to see the movie...
__________________
"Those who promote peace have joy."
- Proverbs 12:20
Neroon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old December 11 2012, 01:11 AM   #1357
Unicron
Continuity Spackle
 
Unicron's Avatar
 
Location: Cybertron
Send a message via ICQ to Unicron
Re: THE HOBBIT (2012/2013): News, Rumors, Pics Till Release

Nice.
__________________

"My dream is to eat candy and poop emeralds. I'm halfway successful."


Catbert, Evil Director of Human Resources
Unicron is offline   Reply With Quote
Old December 11 2012, 03:55 AM   #1358
Emh
Doctor of TARDIS
 
Emh's Avatar
 
Location: Brussels, Belgium
Send a message via ICQ to Emh Send a message via AIM to Emh Send a message via Windows Live Messenger to Emh Send a message via Yahoo to Emh
Re: THE HOBBIT (2012/2013): News, Rumors, Pics Till Release

This is making the rounds on Facebook right now. Great stuff.
__________________
"Eccleston was a tiger and Tennant was, well, Tigger. Smith [is] an uncoordinated housecat who pretends that he meant to do that after falling off a piece of furniture." - Lynne M. Thomas

"I'm in Hell and it's full of Avons!" - Vila
Emh is offline   Reply With Quote
Old December 11 2012, 08:52 PM   #1359
Neroon
Mod of balance
 
Neroon's Avatar
 
Location: On my ship the Rocinante
Re: THE HOBBIT (2012/2013): News, Rumors, Pics Till Release

That's where I picked it up. For me it's a really good idea, provided I can find a small red-light to shine on it during the movie
__________________
"Those who promote peace have joy."
- Proverbs 12:20
Neroon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old December 11 2012, 10:08 PM   #1360
propita
Rear Admiral
 
Location: fresno, ca, us
Re: THE HOBBIT (2012/2013): News, Rumors, Pics Till Release

Alidar Jarok wrote: View Post
I remember a little while ago, I saw the trailer and saw rock giants in the Misty Mountains and thought "well now they're just padding. No way that happened in the book." Then I re-read it and found out that, yeah, it's in the book.

It's simply not possible to tell this story in one or likely two parts without cutting things out. Now you may think they should cut things out, but he's not really adding things.
I agree. And often, some background must be given, to either define the character or scene or give the audience a reason to care about the character. To me, that's not "filler" Ina bad sense, it's filling in the background.

When I read The Hobbit years ago, I was "who is Bard, etc?" Id gone though most of the book and now theres some humans that I'm supposed to root for in some way? Background would be welcome, if it's done well.
propita is offline   Reply With Quote
Old December 12 2012, 04:47 AM   #1361
JD
Admiral
 
JD's Avatar
 
Location: Arizona, USA
Re: THE HOBBIT (2012/2013): News, Rumors, Pics Till Release

That chart is funny. I hadn't seen it before coming to the thread.
__________________
They say a little knowledge is a dangerous thing, but it is not one half so bad as a lot of ignorance. - Terry Pratchett, Equal Rites
JD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old December 13 2012, 02:17 PM   #1362
Neroon
Mod of balance
 
Neroon's Avatar
 
Location: On my ship the Rocinante
Re: THE HOBBIT (2012/2013): News, Rumors, Pics Till Release

Time to bring back a seasonal classic Fox Trot comic, to help celebrate the opening of "The Hobbit":
Attached Images
File Type: jpg Fox_Trot_Mordor_Christmas.jpg (90.2 KB, 51 views)
__________________
"Those who promote peace have joy."
- Proverbs 12:20
Neroon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old December 14 2012, 12:18 AM   #1363
Emh
Doctor of TARDIS
 
Emh's Avatar
 
Location: Brussels, Belgium
Send a message via ICQ to Emh Send a message via AIM to Emh Send a message via Windows Live Messenger to Emh Send a message via Yahoo to Emh
Re: THE HOBBIT (2012/2013): News, Rumors, Pics Till Release

It's times like this I miss Fox Trot. It was at its best when it was full-on nerdy.
__________________
"Eccleston was a tiger and Tennant was, well, Tigger. Smith [is] an uncoordinated housecat who pretends that he meant to do that after falling off a piece of furniture." - Lynne M. Thomas

"I'm in Hell and it's full of Avons!" - Vila
Emh is offline   Reply With Quote
Old December 14 2012, 01:00 AM   #1364
Alidar Jarok
Everything in moderation but moderation
 
Alidar Jarok's Avatar
 
Location: Norfolk, VA
Re: THE HOBBIT (2012/2013): News, Rumors, Pics Till Release

It's still around on Sundays, no?
__________________
When on Romulus, Do as the Romulans
Alidar Jarok is offline   Reply With Quote
Old December 14 2012, 01:24 AM   #1365
Harvey
Admiral
 
Harvey's Avatar
 
Re: THE HOBBIT (2012/2013): News, Rumors, Pics Till Release

Yeah, but it's just not the same as when it was a weekly strip and Amend could tell extended stories.
__________________
"This begs explanation." - de Forest Research on Star Trek

My blog: Star Trek Fact Check.
Harvey is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Tags
hobbit, lord of the rings, peter jackson, tolkien

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump



All times are GMT +1. The time now is 01:59 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.6
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
FireFox 2+ or Internet Explorer 7+ highly recommended.