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Old December 8 2012, 10:31 PM   #1336
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Wasn't there a quick shot of Galadriel in armor at the Dagorlad battle of Elves and Men with Sauron?
I don't believe so. The only prominent Elves I can recall seeing at Dagorlad were Elrond and Gil-galad.
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Old December 8 2012, 10:49 PM   #1337
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She did wear armor (which looked really silly) in the mirror scene.. the scene where they hinted at the scouring of the Shire...
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Old December 9 2012, 12:23 AM   #1338
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Old December 9 2012, 03:55 AM   #1339
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Interesting tidbit from the EW article:



Does this mean Galadriel in Elvish armor?
Damn, that sounds awesome. I don't remember the spiders aspect so clearly I need to reread the appendices again.
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Old December 9 2012, 04:28 AM   #1340
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I honestly don't remember any of that either - other than the White Council (of which Galadriel is a member) being involved. The description, though, makes it sound like a ready-made, Film 2 finale.
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Old December 9 2012, 05:50 AM   #1341
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Not sure where that's from, couldn't find any details about the assault in the Appendices or Unfinished Tales...?
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Old December 9 2012, 05:51 AM   #1342
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I don't remember any mention of spiders or wargs, but we do know the White Council did attack Dol Guldur to drive the Necromancer/Sauron out. It wouldn't surprise me if PJ added the spiders and wargs in to spice things up a bit.
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Old December 9 2012, 05:56 AM   #1343
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No details of that sort are given in the appendices I'm looking at, that's why we don't remember them.
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Old December 9 2012, 08:17 AM   #1344
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Fair enough. I simply accepted that my crappy memory was at fault again.
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Old December 9 2012, 05:24 PM   #1345
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I'm guessing that Movie 2 will climax with Smaug, and Movie 3 will intercut the Battle of 5 Armies with the Assault on Dol Guldur. Personally I'm more interested in seeing the White Council in action that the actual ending of The Hobbit

Though there's a rumor that Smaug's actual death scene will be cut from the ending of Movie 2 because it took too long to end the movie. They're gonna put it in the opening of Movie 3 instead, though there's another rumor there's going to cut that too because they didn't want to spend time on the Movie 2 villain in Movie 3 and will just stick it on the Extended Edition

How will they portray the Necromancer? The LOTR films took the interpretation that Sauron did not have a physical body. But in the books Gollum says that Sauron has four fingers on his hand, which means he does have a physical body.

So will the Necromancer be a Man-In-Armor, or a talking ghost form?
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Old December 9 2012, 09:39 PM   #1346
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I don't remember any mention of spiders or wargs, but we do know the White Council did attack Dol Guldur to drive the Necromancer/Sauron out. It wouldn't surprise me if PJ added the spiders and wargs in to spice things up a bit.
The spiders would have been around Mirkwood generally and perhaps more populous in the southern portion near Dol Guldur after the Necromancer set up shop. Might as well have them involved, right?
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I'm guessing that Movie 2 will climax with Smaug, and Movie 3 will intercut the Battle of 5 Armies with the Assault on Dol Guldur. Personally I'm more interested in seeing the White Council in action that the actual ending of The Hobbit
The chronology doesn't line up for that. The assault on Dol Guldur would take place at roughly the same time as Smaug's death. It's because the White Council was successful in driving the Necromancer from Dol Guldur that Gandalf is able to go back to Erebor when things go all pear shaped there in the wake of Smaug's death.
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Old December 10 2012, 12:10 AM   #1348
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I don't remember any mention of spiders or wargs, but we do know the White Council did attack Dol Guldur to drive the Necromancer/Sauron out. It wouldn't surprise me if PJ added the spiders and wargs in to spice things up a bit.
The spiders would have been around Mirkwood generally and perhaps more populous in the southern portion near Dol Guldur after the Necromancer set up shop. Might as well have them involved, right?
Yeah, makes sense to me.
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Old December 10 2012, 12:21 AM   #1349
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The chronology doesn't line up for that. The assault on Dol Guldur would take place at roughly the same time as Smaug's death. It's because the White Council was successful in driving the Necromancer from Dol Guldur that Gandalf is able to go back to Erebor when things go all pear shaped there in the wake of Smaug's death.
Actually, in the book, Gandalf "was in fact finishing his other business [at Dol Guldur] and getting ready to come in search of Thorin's company" before Bilbo and the dwarves even reach Lake Town. Not that PJ is obligated to stay true to the timeline, but he'd have to move the battle at Dol Guldur, significantly, to line up with Smaug's demise.
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Old December 10 2012, 12:39 AM   #1350
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Personally I would move the Dol Guldur battle to the end of the trilogy. To me it's much more important plot-wise than the 5 Armies. Because they're pitching this as The Lord of the Rings Prequel and not just the Hobbit. So Gandalf and Sauron and Galadriel fighting Sauron is much more LOTR-important than dwarves and elves and orcs fighting over some treasure.
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