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Old December 8 2012, 08:48 PM   #766
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Re: The Star Trek Into Darkness teaser trailer is here!

I'm actually optimistic about the story to STID. If I remember correctly, wasn't the filming and production of this movie delayed so the writers could get the script "right"? This film was originally planned for 2012 right? I remember hearing stories about how long the script writing was taking. I also remember the writers saying they were taking in mind criticisms of Star Trek 2009. We also didn't have a writers strike this time which I think affected the 2009 movie in some way.

I was hoping for a more calmer Star Trek movie and that's obviously what were not getting. But an action movie isn't necessarily a mindless movie.
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Old December 8 2012, 11:50 PM   #767
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So after actually reading most of this thread after several days I see absolutely nothing to change my mind from what I already posted.

Some things I still shake my head over...comments that the 1 minute trailer has no shots of space??? Well the movie is 2 hrs long (120 min or so in case you weren't counting) and the teaser shows at least two alien planets...

Doesn't feel like Star Trek? We've had 10 movies before the JJ series, and they switched tone several times, from STTMP to Wrath of Khan, from the old crew to new. STIV was totally different from II and III, Insurrection was totally different from STFC. Many people feel the movies felt nothing like the original series they came from at all!

We have to take into account that Paramount wants these movies to be successful, and that has a lot to do with money... the trek series made well over a $1 billion, but they want more movies to make half a billion on their own like ST09 did (between BO grosses and home release). They need to have elements for the longtime fan, but also make the casual fans happy who are used to a certain level of blockbuster. By most accounts, professional and fans, ST09 did just THAT!

I'll re-iterate the ST ongoing comic book continuity because it seems as if it would be exceedingly easy to write it's back story in a flashback or in the teaser without ever mentioning it came from a comic book!!

"Star Trek is Star Wars"...how much starship combat did we have in ST09? Maybe 10 minutes total? Possibly less than STII the Wrath of Khan. Star Trek continues show a professional Starfleet crew using scientific methods to challenge the unknown, not some bogus Zen nonsense that appeals to history and golden ages.

The SFX...less elabroate and pervasive, but the ST09 FX looked a whole lot better than the three SW prequels. Even the current teaser has better volcanic FX in my opinion...however, just because a movie has a volcano and lava in it doesn't mean it's Revenge of the Sith...

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Old December 9 2012, 12:49 AM   #768
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SantaEddie74 wrote: View Post
Think about it. The Galactic Empire builds a monstrous armored space station that's 100 miles in diameter and capable of destroying an entire planet with one huge burst from its main weapon, yet the designers left a fatal weakness in the design that not only left the most powerful weapon in that entire galaxy vulnerable but led directly to the main reactor? No shielding or protective plating in between to keep something from reaching the core? Just a long, long shaft straight to the one part of the station that would trigger a colossal explosion and make the whole weapon utterly pointless?
You'll never hear THAT in a Plinkett video.
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Old December 9 2012, 01:22 AM   #769
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RAMA wrote: View Post
So after actually reading most of this thread after several days I see absolutely nothing to change my mind from what I already posted.

Some things I still shake my head over...comments that the 1 minute trailer has no shots of space??? Well the movie is 2 hrs long (120 min or so in case you weren't counting) and the teaser shows at least two alien planets...

Doesn't feel like Star Trek? We've had 10 movies before the JJ series, and they switched tone several times, from STTMP to Wrath of Khan, from the old crew to new. STIV was totally different from II and III, Insurrection was totally different from STFC. Many people feel the movies felt nothing like the original series they came from at all!

We have to take into account that Paramount wants these movies to be successful, and that has a lot to do with money... the trek series made well over a $1 billion, but they want more movies to make half a billion on their own like ST09 did (between BO grosses and home release). They need to have elements for the longtime fan, but also make the casual fans happy who are used to a certain level of blockbuster. By most accounts, professional and fans, ST09 did just THAT!

I'll re-iterate the ST ongoing comic book continuity because it seems as if it would be exceedingly easy to write it's back story in a flashback or in the teaser without ever mentioning it came from a comic book!!

"Star Trek is Star Wars"...how much starship combat did we have in ST09? Maybe 10 minutes total? Possibly less than STII the Wrath of Khan. Star Trek continues show a professional Starfleet crew using scientific methods to challenge the unknown, not some bogus Zen nonsense that appeals to history and golden ages.

The SFX...less elabroate and pervasive, but the ST09 FX looked a whole lot better than the three SW prequels. Even the current teaser has better volcanic FX in my opinion...however, just because a movie has a volcano and lava in it doesn't mean it's Revenge of the Sith...

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Old December 9 2012, 01:37 AM   #770
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Trekmovie.com has some info about the trailer coming out next week
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Old December 9 2012, 01:41 AM   #771
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Oh noes.
There's space stuff and space battles in the movie after all.
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Old December 9 2012, 01:46 AM   #772
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If true it sounds very similar to some of the themes of
But quite possibly misdirection.
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Old December 9 2012, 01:47 AM   #773
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Cumberbatch in a brig can only mean one thing: OMG, HE WANTED US TO CAPTURE HIM!!!!
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Old December 9 2012, 02:06 AM   #774
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Is it possible the fly-over is to celebrate Kirk's birthday?
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Old December 9 2012, 02:08 AM   #775
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But those airplanes form the "missing man formation", not the "happy birthday formation".
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Old December 9 2012, 02:09 AM   #776
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Old December 9 2012, 02:09 AM   #777
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In the old universe, maybe.
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Old December 9 2012, 02:10 AM   #778
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Is it possible the fly-over is to celebrate Kirk's birthday?
Not really.
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Old December 9 2012, 02:11 AM   #779
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A birthday honor? Doubtful. I'm still thinking that the flyover is a tribute to a graduating class at the Academy or a funeral for a noteworthy officer of high rank. Kirk played a major role in the defeat of Nero and the Narada in the Battle of Earth and he's a hero....but I don't think birthdays warrant this kind of gathering and a full-blown flyover. He's not an Earth or Federation head of state or government or another dignitary.
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