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View Poll Results: Are you excited for Jack's big screen debut
yes 5 17.24%
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Old December 8 2012, 03:16 AM   #16
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I'm quite surprised how well the Jack Reacher books have sold.

Are the books really that good?
To be fair, the "Shades of Gray" books sold well, too.
So would you watch "Shades of Gray" if those books are turned into movies like you watched the "Twilight" movies?

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Old December 8 2012, 03:22 AM   #17
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The author Lee Child was quoted as saying, "Reacher’s size in the books is a metaphor for an unstoppable force, which Cruise portrays in his own way."

Looks like the author really wants the movie to do well!
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Old December 8 2012, 03:22 AM   #18
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I'm quite surprised how well the Jack Reacher books have sold.

Are the books really that good?
To be fair, the "Shades of Gray" books sold well, too.
So would you watch "Shades of Gray" if those books are turned into movies like you watched the "Twilight" movies?
Probably not. I only saw the Twilight movies because they were such a "pop culture phenomenon" that I felt it was my duty to see them in order to a)properly make fun of them b)rightfully make fun of them c)to enjoy Rifftrax. And, well, in the end I ended up enjoying them on some level beyond riffing fodder.

I doubt the Shades of Gray movies will have the same impact since they'll likely be geared for an older audience without a lot less gratuitous teenage-girl fan service.
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Old December 8 2012, 10:58 AM   #19
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Re: Jack Reacher yes,no, maybe so

My fears have been realised.I walked in to a bookshop today and saw that One shot has been rereleased complete with The Cruisers gurning mug on the cover.
I simply couldn't contemplate buying any future Reacher books if this will be the way from now on.
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Old December 8 2012, 11:25 AM   #20
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My fears have been realised.I walked in to a bookshop today and saw that One shot has been rereleased complete with The Cruisers gurning mug on the cover.
I simply couldn't contemplate buying any future Reacher books if this will be the way from now on.
Don't worry, those were tie-in novels released to advertise the upcoming movie. The covers should go back to normal after a while. Film adaptations do that all the time.

The same thing happened with Twilight when those movies were being released.
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Old December 8 2012, 05:38 PM   #21
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I'm quite surprised how well the Jack Reacher books have sold.

Are the books really that good?
Yes, especially the first-person ones.

I'd have preferred somebody like Rome's Ray Stevenson in the role... I mean, in the trailer, TC hides in a crowd - the book character literally couldn't do that, because he'd stand head and shoulders taller than everybody else there! (he's six foot five, FFS)
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Old December 8 2012, 06:12 PM   #22
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I'm quite surprised how well the Jack Reacher books have sold.

Are the books really that good?
Yes, especially the first-person ones.

I'd have preferred somebody like Rome's Ray Stevenson in the role... I mean, in the trailer, TC hides in a crowd - the book character literally couldn't do that, because he'd stand head and shoulders taller than everybody else there! (he's six foot five, FFS)

You are right on the money about the first person novels. I have jumped around in my reading order and defiantly prefer them. Reading Die Trying right now and it has a different feel, still good just different.
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Old December 8 2012, 06:32 PM   #23
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I love the Reacher novels. I don't care for the Cruise casting, though. It doesn't work for me and I won't be going to see the film. That doesn't bother me though, Jack will still be in the novels - larger than life and twice as ugly. I know Lee Child is the author and ultimately he has insights into the character that the rest of us don't but I find his comments about Cruise's casting to be disingenuous. Reacher's size is almost another character in the novels, it's that central to his characterisation. I don't mind that they cast Cruise, I wish Lee Child well that he's hit another paydirt and Reacher will be brought to the attention of another load of folks, but I can't believe what he says when he tries to mitigate Tom Cruise's stature. The moment Crusie looks up at the bad guys in the trailer for the film the whole thing falls apart for me.
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Old December 8 2012, 07:12 PM   #24
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I know Lee Child is the author and ultimately he has insights into the character that the rest of us don't but I find his comments about Cruise's casting to be disingenuous.
Professional, actually - he used to be a TV producer before becoming a writer, so he knows how the business works
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Old December 10 2012, 04:36 AM   #25
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Only the title, Jack Reacher , really, gave me a clue that this was based on some well known character. However the trailer sold the movie for me and it is the only thing I am waiting for these next few weeks.

Now on the message boards I understand that the character is suppose to have the physical presence of Tyler Perry, well he already has a franchise
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Old December 10 2012, 08:16 AM   #26
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I know Lee Child is the author and ultimately he has insights into the character that the rest of us don't but I find his comments about Cruise's casting to be disingenuous.
Professional, actually - he used to be a TV producer before becoming a writer, so he knows how the business works
I take your point. As his reader, though, I still don't "believe" him. (Not that it matters! )
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Old December 10 2012, 10:59 AM   #27
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I know Lee Child is the author and ultimately he has insights into the character that the rest of us don't but I find his comments about Cruise's casting to be disingenuous.
Professional, actually - he used to be a TV producer before becoming a writer, so he knows how the business works
I take your point. As his reader, though, I still don't "believe" him. (Not that it matters! )
I don't believe him either, but I get that it's part of his job to not slag it off, if you see what I mean...
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Old December 11 2012, 04:30 AM   #28
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Bit of a date-comprehension error on the part of my mother who got the screening tickets to Jack Reacher, the screening is next Monday. Wasn't tonight.
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Old December 11 2012, 10:55 PM   #29
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The author Lee Child was quoted as saying, "Reacher’s size in the books is a metaphor for an unstoppable force, which Cruise portrays in his own way."

Looks like the author really wants the movie to do well!
Cruise portrays that unstoppable force using the unstoppable madness in his eyes.
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Old December 12 2012, 03:05 PM   #30
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I don't care if the film is like the books or not, it's unimportant. I only care if they make a good movie.
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