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Old December 6 2012, 04:13 PM   #241
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Re: The Star Trek Into Darkness teaser trailer is here!

Got thru 7 pages of this thread....I really dig the teasers, especially that extra bit in the Japanese version. Love to know who Cumberpatch is playing, but very intense minute
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Old December 6 2012, 04:21 PM   #242
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From the trailer I leaning towards Khan, maybe Garth. But the fighting ability speaks to an genetically enhanced super soldier. Khan would have a bone to pick with earth. But again I am not ruling Garth out.

And in a way perhaps the Klingons find Khan and awaken him. I hate to quote something from Enterprise, but the Klingons had been fascinated with the augments. Perhaps they thought they could control him and were dead wrong. The fact that he is wearing a uniform of Starfleet is not evidence against either if you consider that Khan wore a broken Starfleet symbol around his neck in STII.

The one person I don't think it is now is Mitchell. One his story did not strike me as a revenge story. He was listed as killed in the line of duty as he did not choose to have those powers. The barrier did it too him. Where exactly is the revenge in that. Two he had god like powers, if he walked around tossing ships around I could see him being Mitchell but this guy seems like he is doing it the old fashion way.
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Old December 6 2012, 04:23 PM   #243
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Re watching the Japanese teaser. When Benedict Cumberbatch is saying 'Is there anything you would not do for your family?', it almost sounds like Benedict's voice is breaking, like the kind of emotional line you'd give when explaining your motivation or driving reason. Were any of the villains in TOS majorly motivated by family?
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Old December 6 2012, 04:24 PM   #244
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Seen both Trek 2 trailers or teasers. It would appear Khan and the Genesis device have found there way into the alternate timeline. Japanese teaser scene appears to be a nod to Wrath and possibily the volcano scene Spock jumps into may be Vulcan from the Prime universe. Is JJ trying to set things right after all. Giving Kirk that all things possible chance to bring back his Dad and his dear friend by restoring order.
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Old December 6 2012, 04:25 PM   #245
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I thought the trailer looked all kinds of meh. and do we really need to do the Kahn story again? ugh.....
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Old December 6 2012, 04:26 PM   #246
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Re watching the Japanese teaser. When Benedict Cumberbatch is saying 'Is there anything you would not do for your family?', it almost sounds like Benedict's voice is breaking, like the kind of emotional line you'd give when explaining your motivation or driving reason. Were any of the villains in TOS majorly motivated by family?
I agree. I think the villain blames Kirk for the death of a loved one and that becomes one of the motivations for his desire for revenge. In "Wrath of KHan", doesn't Khan blame Kirk for the death of his wife?
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Old December 6 2012, 04:28 PM   #247
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Trailer seemed more like a Transformers movie then a Trek one, but I will reserve judgement until I see the full movie itself. Have to say I'm pretty excited.

As for the villain, I'm thinking Garth might be a good bet. I mean, we're not seeing the freaky silver eyes and super-powers that Gary had, unless the story is that Gary never goes through the barrier and something else makes him crazy. I'm not thinking Khan, that seems a little too obvious.

Though it's hard to make accurate guesses based on a trailer that is mostly explosions and people looking shocked.
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Old December 6 2012, 04:29 PM   #248
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Romulan_spy wrote: View Post
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Re watching the Japanese teaser. When Benedict Cumberbatch is saying 'Is there anything you would not do for your family?', it almost sounds like Benedict's voice is breaking, like the kind of emotional line you'd give when explaining your motivation or driving reason. Were any of the villains in TOS majorly motivated by family?
I agree. I think the villain blames Kirk for the death of a loved one and that becomes one of the motivations for his desire for revenge. In "Wrath of KHan", doesn't Khan blame Kirk for the death of his wife?
Yeah, but Khan's wife was (IIRC) Marla McGivers... a Starfleet officer from Kirk's crew. So that wouldn't make sense unless he considered his followers family and they all got killed.
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Old December 6 2012, 04:29 PM   #249
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Re watching the Japanese teaser. When Benedict Cumberbatch is saying 'Is there anything you would not do for your family?', it almost sounds like Benedict's voice is breaking, like the kind of emotional line you'd give when explaining your motivation or driving reason. Were any of the villains in TOS majorly motivated by family?
I agree. I think the villain blames Kirk for the death of a loved one and that becomes one of the motivations for his desire for revenge. In "Wrath of KHan", doesn't Khan blame Kirk for the death of his wife?
Yeah but Khan's wife was Lieutenant Marla McGivers, who he met in Space Seed, thus he wouldn't be married in this timeline yet (acting on the idea that he was just recently unfrozen).

Also, Kirk seems to recognize him in the trailer, so unless Kirk and Khan had a prior dealing not shown on screen I don't think it's Khan.
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Old December 6 2012, 04:35 PM   #250
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This is how stupid the "Gary Mitchell" stuff is: I can pick out three things from this trailer - the "I have returned for vengeance" line, the "family" remark RE: McGivers, and the shot in the Japanese trailer of Kirk and Spock touching hands and claim that it's a remake of Wrath Of Khan.

Which would be unjustifiable bullshit, but then so is the MitchellHead blather.
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Old December 6 2012, 04:36 PM   #251
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Has anyone considered that Cumberbatch could be playing Kirk's brother?

Or

It is neither Khan or Mitchell?
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Old December 6 2012, 04:37 PM   #252
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^ Yes, people have considered all of these too.
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Old December 6 2012, 04:37 PM   #253
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It's a new character altogether most likely, someone in Starfleet, someone who has a grudge largely against the Federation itself, with Kirk caught up in it.
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Old December 6 2012, 04:42 PM   #254
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No silver eyes, its not Mitchell!!
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Old December 6 2012, 04:44 PM   #255
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Given the cumber-jumping going on I think it's pretty clear he's playing either a genetically enhanced or otherwise uber-being of some sort.
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