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Old December 6 2012, 07:10 AM   #16
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It would have been cool to see them enjoying themselves in other ways, I'm sure they did things other than holodecks in the future.
Seems kind of pointless if you're on a starship, though.

The holodeck or a night of Kal-toh, let's see..
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Old December 6 2012, 08:51 AM   #17
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It would have been cool to see them enjoying themselves in other ways, I'm sure they did things other than holodecks in the future.
Seems kind of pointless if you're on a starship, though.

The holodeck or a night of Kal-toh, let's see..
Except in a survival situation where power was in very limited supply, the Holodeck should have been a luxury they could not afford. The Holodeck having a separate power supply makes no sense and contradicts what we know about the Holodeck in TNG. Its hard to care about the crew having to ration power, when they can goof off in the Holodeck whenever they want, it takes all the tension out of the situation.
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Old December 6 2012, 10:23 AM   #18
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They clearly said in the second story that holodeck power was noncompatible with the rest of the ships other powersystems which is complete bullshit, considering what we know about fake holodeck science from 21 years of modern trek. Wait? is 1987 - 2005 still regarded as modern, and the new movies are post modern or has the almanac been completely rewritten?

From Parallax.
PARIS: Engine efficiency's down another fourteen percent. If we don't get more power to the warp drive, we're all going to have to get out and push.
JANEWAY: What about alternative energy sources? Ensign Kim, have you had any luck getting power from the holodeck reactors?
KIM: Not yet. We tried hooking them to the power grid and we ended up blowing out half the relays. The holodeck's energy matrix, it just isn't compatible with the other power systems.
CHAKOTAY: Captain, if we relocate all security personnel to deck seven, we can shut down power on deck nine and reroute it to propulsion.
TUVOK: That would be inconvenient, but acceptable.
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Old December 6 2012, 11:44 AM   #19
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It would have been cool to see them enjoying themselves in other ways, I'm sure they did things other than holodecks in the future.
Seems kind of pointless if you're on a starship, though.

The holodeck or a night of Kal-toh, let's see..
Tuvok could have them doing laps of the ship Joy.
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Old December 6 2012, 12:19 PM   #20
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Can you imagine how tedious Vulcan holorprograms would be?

I wonder if they even have any recreational ones, that don't serve some ultimately educational or athletic purpose.
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Old December 6 2012, 12:21 PM   #21
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From Parallax.
PARIS: Engine efficiency's down another fourteen percent. If we don't get more power to the warp drive, we're all going to have to get out and push.
JANEWAY: What about alternative energy sources? Ensign Kim, have you had any luck getting power from the holodeck reactors?
KIM: Not yet. We tried hooking them to the power grid and we ended up blowing out half the relays. The holodeck's energy matrix, it just isn't compatible with the other power systems.
CHAKOTAY: Captain, if we relocate all security personnel to deck seven, we can shut down power on deck nine and reroute it to propulsion.
TUVOK: That would be inconvenient, but acceptable.
SEE an explanation was given. People always accuse VOY of not including enough explanations or reasons or excuses or throwaway lines that would clear things up.

You can reroute everything on the ship into the warp drive except the holomatrix.
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Old December 6 2012, 12:39 PM   #22
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One has to wonder why then, the Starfleet Engineers decided to design and build a power system that was incompatable with the rest of the ship for the holodeck. After all on the Galaxy Class ships it was comptable. They threw the fans a bone, because they knew they would critise the show for heavy use of the holodeck otherwise.

But in general as has already been stated the biggest use of the reset button in VOY is the ship looking like it had just left Utopia virtually every episode no matter how much damage it had taken the previous episode. We can rationalise somewhat on TOS, TNG that the ship but into starbase for repairs as for DSN it was a starbase.
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Old December 6 2012, 07:05 PM   #23
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In Farscape, Moya would take minor to medium damage and almost always be okay by the next episode. It was only the major damage (like in the second season finale) that they needed a specialist to repair the ship.

With Voyager, I don't think it was unbelievable that they could just fix the minor and moderate damage between episodes.
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Old December 6 2012, 07:18 PM   #24
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They "reset' the Borg baby out of existence.



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It would have been cool to see them enjoying themselves in other ways, I'm sure they did things other than holodecks in the future.
Seems kind of pointless if you're on a starship, though.
Poker on TNG, I found it interesting. They did "movie night" on ENT.

They did "movie night" once on VOY too, but they did it on the holodeck.

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Old December 6 2012, 11:06 PM   #25
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They clearly said in the second story that holodeck power was noncompatible with the rest of the ships other powersystems which is complete bullshit, considering what we know about fake holodeck science from 21 years of modern trek. Wait? is 1987 - 2005 still regarded as modern, and the new movies are post modern or has the almanac been completely rewritten?

From Parallax.
PARIS: Engine efficiency's down another fourteen percent. If we don't get more power to the warp drive, we're all going to have to get out and push.
JANEWAY: What about alternative energy sources? Ensign Kim, have you had any luck getting power from the holodeck reactors?
KIM: Not yet. We tried hooking them to the power grid and we ended up blowing out half the relays. The holodeck's energy matrix, it just isn't compatible with the other power systems.
CHAKOTAY: Captain, if we relocate all security personnel to deck seven, we can shut down power on deck nine and reroute it to propulsion.
TUVOK: That would be inconvenient, but acceptable.

The very notion that the holodeck was incompatible was dumb from the start. Unless the holodeck uses something other than electricity then it should be possible to convert its power into something useable to everything else.

Lets be clear...these people had no problem integrating and powering alien systems from the other side of the galaxy and using technology from centuries in the future...but the the god damn holodeck was apparently a bridge to far!...Buls**t!
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Old December 6 2012, 11:35 PM   #26
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Without the holodeck the crew might be driven to stuff like... pairing up
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Old December 6 2012, 11:39 PM   #27
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I'd have loved a Picardo scene (HBO-style) where he talks about everyone coming in and pestering him about contraceptives and alien STDs.
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Old December 7 2012, 12:12 AM   #28
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Without the holodeck the crew might be driven to stuff like... pairing up
Like in Stargate Universe. Only you would actually care about it.
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Old December 7 2012, 12:52 AM   #29
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I really liked what Kathleen Munroe did with her hands after she stopped being a paraplegic.

Have you noticed that she's in everything these days?
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Old December 7 2012, 01:05 AM   #30
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I really do find something attractive about most people but Nicholas Rush was too much for me. Right up to the last episode I thought he was absolutely repulsive to look at. So the sight of Amanda Perry's hands on him was very disturbing.
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