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Old December 4 2012, 02:39 AM   #91
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Re: TOS's largest one time prop.

[QUOTE=Timo;7325989]
And then there's Nemesis, where the lowermost deck of the ship apparently has a bottomless shaft extending down from it.
Lowermost deck? Why would the Viceroy be on the lowermost deck of the ship? He was going to kidnap Picard, who was on the bridge - the Viceroy would be far more likely to be near the topmost deck! Or more likely at the top of the secondary hull and the bottom of the primary one, where Riker and Worf would meet him at halfway point. Plenty of room for a long shaft - and indeed a good justification for having such a shaft, as the vertical warp core is near the primary/secondary hull junction and no doubt has associated service shafts.
It's the bottom of the ship; that's where the boarding party beamed in at, it is pretty specific in dialog, and I think it is two decks lower than the lowest deck on the ship in FC. Unless they managed to ascend a long ways before security responded (and I can't see why that would be permitted, but hey, did anybody really think about any of this in NEM?), the shootout is down low.
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Old December 4 2012, 09:47 AM   #92
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It's the bottom of the ship; that's where the boarding party beamed in at, it is pretty specific in dialog
Where the boarding party beamed in and where the fight took place must be two completely different locations - the Remans would not stand still. We can see that both sides in the conflict proceed on foot, so a meeting at the halfway point is rather likely.

Furthermore, the fight continues after the two sides meet; it takes a long time for the action to move to the bottomless shaft. All that time, the Viceroy would be heading up; Riker would be desperately trying to catch up with him, but the Reman would have no motivation to loiter and deal with the Commander when his logical course of action would be to leave Riker far behind (that is, below).

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Old November 7 2014, 12:16 PM   #93
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Re: TOS's largest one time prop.

Does anyone know the exact locations where the Obelisk and Indian Village were filmed?
I actually live pretty close to Franklin Canyon Reservoir, and MUST go check out the site! (I have been to Vasquez Rocks many times, totally awesome!)
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Old November 7 2014, 12:34 PM   #94
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Re: TOS's largest one time prop.

Check this thread out: http://www.trekbbs.com/showthread.php?t=253609
If you scroll through the first few pages you will discover the exact locations where they filmed this episode, as well likely locations of the Obelisk itself
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Old November 7 2014, 03:07 PM   #95
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Star Trek's largest one-time prop...

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Old November 7 2014, 06:14 PM   #96
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Star Trek's largest one-time prop...

And worst made.
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Old November 7 2014, 07:17 PM   #97
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Star Trek's largest one-time prop...

I'd actually file that under "largest one time tool".
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Old November 8 2014, 12:28 AM   #98
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Re: TOS's largest one time prop.

Said it before and will say it again, TOS looks best filmed outdoors in natural light. Imagine how great Who Mourns For Adonais would have looked outdoors with a real garden.
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Old November 8 2014, 03:27 AM   #99
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Said it before and will say it again, TOS looks best filmed outdoors in natural light. Imagine how great Who Mourns For Adonais would have looked outdoors with a real garden.
It all depends on the kind of story being told. "Spectre of the Gun" benefited from using stylized, surreal, minimalist sets. It wouldn't have worked if they'd shot it in a stock backlot frontier town.
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Old November 8 2014, 04:13 AM   #100
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Also, Earth's "natural light" is only natural for a planet 1 astronomical unit from a main-sequence G2 star. Extrasolar planets really should have different lighting. As a matter of fact, the temperature and spectrum of an M-type red dwarf isn't that far off from that of an incandescent light bulb, so some planets' outdoor light might look more like indoor light.

I thought they did a great job in "Metamorphosis" making the soundstage look like an exterior -- not perfect, but a very nice illusion, even including stage smoke to create "clouds" in the sky.
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Old November 8 2014, 05:05 AM   #101
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Re: TOS's largest one time prop.

One episode that I wish had some sort of on-location shots is Amok Time.

Although I'm not sure they had the technology to make the sky red if they had done some of it on location.

Another episode that seemed to have great use of nighttime sets, if I remember correctly, is Alternative Factor. (Or am I remembering it wrong?)

So there's no sign of the Obelisk?
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Old November 8 2014, 07:15 PM   #102
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Another episode that seemed to have great use of nighttime sets, if I remember correctly, is Alternative Factor. (Or am I remembering it wrong?)
I'm not recalling night scenes in that ep. Not that I've seen it that much, or lately.
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Old November 8 2014, 07:30 PM   #103
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One episode that I wish had some sort of on-location shots is Amok Time.

Although I'm not sure they had the technology to make the sky red if they had done some of it on location.
Placing a red gel in front of the camera lens might have worked, it would have given everything a soft red cast.

T'Pol in ENT said that from the surface of Vulcan the sky was occasional blue. Earth is blue and white from space, but all last week Seattle's sky's were very grey.

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Old November 8 2014, 07:47 PM   #104
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Re: TOS's largest one time prop.

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Star Trek's largest one-time prop...

I'd actually file that under "largest one time tool".
Considering every Admiral, Governer or simply authority figure on TOS throughout it's run, he had some major competition.

Someone please write a TOS novel where the nickname for SFC is 'the toolshed'.
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Old November 8 2014, 08:07 PM   #105
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...In the TMP Enterprise, the rec deck is too tall to fit inside the rim of the saucer (due to that undercut thing on the miniature)
Not to mention the turbolift shafts where we see a lift coming down from the ceiling of a room that's on the topmost deck of the saucer rim!
The undercut has always bothered me since I bought the original blueprints for the TOS Enterprise!

I'm not visualizing about the bit about the turboshafts, unless you mean the two lighted shafts either side of the past Enterprise displays that Admiral Kirk stands in front of to give the crew briefing?

At any event, the original point about the Obelisk being an impressive 'object' stands. It sells itself as out of place compared to the Amerind village.
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