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Old December 3 2012, 03:02 AM   #511
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Re: La-La Land to release 15-disc original series score set

This thing is gonna be so cool.
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Old December 3 2012, 03:59 AM   #512
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I only regret that I haven't had time to rewatch TOS before getting this set, to refresh my memory about the music placement and stuff.
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Old December 3 2012, 04:22 AM   #513
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Mr. Bennett you remember more about TOS music WITHOUT re-watching than I do having started rewatching. (And I mean that as a sincere compliment.)
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Old December 3 2012, 05:39 AM   #514
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Film Score Monthly is closing down? What a shame. Will it still be possible to obtain the albums they produced through some other source?
Lukas is closing down the label but I imagine he'll still produce (or at least consult on) albums for other labels.

You can order all of FSM's in-print titles from Screen Archives Entertainment. Some aren't in print anymore and others are running out fast.

This is Lukas' low-quantity alert as of mid-October: http://filmscoremonthly.com/daily/ar...-Alert-101612/
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Old December 3 2012, 07:56 PM   #515
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Cues that have not had a previous version released are:
ITITNB:
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My Life Is Here/I Must Know/Starship Party
According to the listing Neil provided, "My Life Is Here" includes the Fried Spock theme. That theme can be heard bookending the suite on the Bremner, so I think some version of that cue must have made it into the suite, whether listed or not.

Guess we'll know shortly....
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Old December 3 2012, 08:05 PM   #516
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^Yes, I know the Fried cue is in both of the Duning suites, both the Bremner ITITNB and the Steiner "Empath." My exact words were: "Neither album acknowledges the incorporation of Fried's 'Mr. Spock.'" Which means that both albums did incorporate it into their suites, but neither of them acknowledged Fried's authorship of that motif. The full cues were included, but there was no asterisk and footnote crediting Fried as there is here.
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Old December 3 2012, 10:30 PM   #517
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SEASON 3, DISC 5

And the Children Shall Lead
Music Composed and Conducted by George Duning
Episode #60, Recorded 8/9/68
Aired #59, 10/11/68

1. Main Title* (soprano version, third season mix; arr. Courage) 1:02
2006 Recording Conducted and Produced by Gregory Smith
2. Triacus*/What Goes Kids? M11/M12 2:41
3. Triacus Burial/Kooky Kids/Reluctant Kids M13/M14/M15 1:49
4. Strange Feelings M16–20 1:30
5. Starship Again*/Instant Ice Cream M21/M22 1:04
6. Busy-Busy/Tommy Tired/Here Comes the Gorgon/Kids’ Whammy #1 M23/M24/M25/M26 3:59
7. Standard Orbit #1*/Starnes’ Tape/Kids’ Whammy #2/Tommy’s Whammy/Standard Orbit #2*/Whammed Crew*/Starnes’ Story M31/M32/M33/M34/M35/M36/M36A/M37 5:36
8. Mislead Innocent/McCoy Mad*/Out of Orbit*/Call the Angel M38/M41/M42/M43/M43A 2:56
9. Kids in Control M44–50/M44–50A/M44–50B/M44–50C/M44–50D/M44–50E 7:14
10. Scotty Whammied/By Whose Orders M51/M52 2:01
11. Last Whammy M53/M53A 1:30
12. Gorgon Summoned/Gorgon Zapped* M54–60/M61 5:07

Total Time: 36:56

*Contains “Theme From Star Trek (TV Series)” by Alexander Courage and Gene Roddenberry

Third Season Library Music
Conducted by Wilbur Hatch
Recorded 6/25/68

From “The Cage” (Alexander Courage):

13. Survivors (M21) LM100 1:41
14. Bottled (M31) LM101 1:51
15. Monster Illusion (M42) LM102 2:46
16. Monster Illusion (tag) (M42) LM102A 0:09
17. The Kibitzers (M44) LM103 0:40
18. Vina’s Punishment (M51) LM104 1:54
19. Vina’s Dance (M62) LM105 1:52
20. Wrong Think (M73) LM106 0:42

From “Where No Man Has Gone Before” (Alexander Courage):

21. Act 1 Card (M13) LM107 0:37
22. Crippled Ship (M22) LM108 0:54
23. Speedy Reader (M24) LM109 1:05
24. End Title (M64) LM110 0:23

From “The Man Trap” (Alexander Courage):

25. First Goner (M14–21) LM111 tk 3 0:48
26. First Goner (M14–21) LM111 tk 4 0:49
27. Dressing Down (M23) LM114 0:07
28. Monitor Gizzard (M25) LM113 0:13
29. Monitor Gizzard (M25) LM113A 0:09
30. Lazer Dazer (M45–51) LM112 2:43
31. Dodo Girl (M52) LM115 0:09

From “Catspaw” (Gerald Fried):

32. Drugged (M25) LM116 1:23
33. Mace Fight (M61) LM117 0:59
34. Mace Fight (M61) LM117A 0:18

From “Friday’s Child” (Gerald Fried):

35. Down the Throat (M58) LM118 1:13
36. Arrows (M61) LM119 1:25

Total Time (13–36): 25:40

Composed and Conducted by Gerald Fried (With “The Paradise Syndrome”)

37. School Chum (“Shore Leave” M23) LM125 0:32
38. Mr. Spock (“Amok Time” M14) LM128/LM128A 0:57
39. Contrary Order (“Amok Time” M16–20A) LM129 2:58
40. More Soup* (“Amok Time” M26–30B) LM126 2:00
41. More Soup (“Amok Time” M26–30B) LM126A/LM127 1:05

Total Time: 7:41

Conducted by George Duning (With “Is There in Truth No Beauty?”)

42. Act Out LM131 tk 1 0:14
43. Act Out LM131 tk 2 0:13

Total Time: 0:30

Score Alternates

44. Ambassador Arrival* (“Is There in Truth No Beauty?” by Duning, M13A) 0:15
45. Out of Orbit* (“And the Children Shall Lead” by Duning, M42A) 0:14
46. Final Curtain* (“Spectre of the Gun” by Fielding, M63C) 0:13
47. Unfair Exchange (“The Enterprise Incident” by Courage, M14–20A) 0:15
48. Tromba Sweetener (“Plato’s Stepchildren” by Courage, M25A) 0:23
49. The Aristocrats (“Plato’s Stepchildren” by Courage, M52A) 0:16

Total Time: 1:48


The Savage Curtain
Episode #77, Recorded 1/24/69
Aired #77, 3/7/69
Music Composed and Conducted by Wilbur Hatch

50. Drums/Salute to Our President Fanfare MX/M1/M1A 1:30
51. Salute to Our President Fanfare (outtakes medley) M2/M3/M4/M5 0:52
52. End Title* (soprano version, alternate ending; arr. Courage, cond. Hatch) 0:41
53. Paramount Television I.D. (Wilbur Hatch) 0:05

Total Time: 3:16

Total Disc Time: 76:18
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Old December 3 2012, 10:39 PM   #518
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"Whammied"! I love it.
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Old December 3 2012, 11:23 PM   #519
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I was expecting the "Children Shall Lead" score to include a notation for "Includes 'Ring Around the Rosie' (Traditional)." Maybe Duning's version is different enough not to count as the actual tune? At least a couple of bars of it seem identical, and usually just one or two bars is enough to get a footnote.

So most of this is re-recorded library cues. I guess I'm not surprised. I do remember that a lot of pilot and "Man Trap" cues were tracked in season 3. Offhand I don't remember what S3 episodes used the tracked Fried cues included here. Interesting that Wilbur Hatch conducted the reused Courage cues. And what are those "Act Out LM131" takes conducted by Duning? There's no composer credit on that.

The alternates could be interesting -- variants that weren't used in the scores? Cool.

And I'd forgotten the presidential fanfare in "The Savage Curtain." Somehow I never really noticed that there was a bit of new music there. I'm still surprised that Hatch was working on TOS in season 3, since he was Desilu's musical director and Desilu was gone by that point.

So anyway, that's the last track listing to be released. I'd be sad that it's over -- except the actual box set goes on sale in less than 23 hours! Soon it will be mine, ah-ha-ha-ha-ha!!
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Old December 4 2012, 12:41 AM   #520
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Here we go folks - the last interview with some of the producers who worked on this fantastic set. I spoke to Jeff Bond who researched and wrote the extensive liner notes, the interview is here and there are a final FIVE new sample tracks at the bottom of the page!

http://www.trekcore.com/merchandise/sttos_jeffbond.html

Watch out for a full review of the set in the near future.
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Old December 4 2012, 12:55 AM   #521
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Have I overlooked it, or is the 3rd Season Bumper music missing?

Bumper Fan Out (by Wilbur Hatch)

It follows William Shatner's v/o at mid-episode in the 3rd season: "William Shatner speaking: Tonight's Star Trek continues in a moment."
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Old December 4 2012, 01:07 AM   #522
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Good interview with Jeff. You know what? I just bet there's a ton of research material that he couldn't fit into those liner notes. How about a companion book?

I knew Ray Ellis did the episode scores for the '60s Spider-Man, but someone else was credited with the theme song. Is it true that Ellis did the arrangements for the song?

You guys saved some of the best or most iconic excerpts for last. We finally hear "Monster Illusion" -- although I'm puzzled, because I remember it having a high three-note ostinato, a sort of "ping-ping-ping, ping-ping-ping" that isn't there in this cue. Maybe that's something that was added in the library version? We also get "Space Cube," the quintessential first-season action cue, and the never-before-released "Condition Alert," plus the long-awaited "Apollo's Storm," which unfortunately didn't sound too great on my old, deteriorating computer speakers. Mullendore's library cue is one I certainly remember, though I can't recall what episodes it was used in.

But "Death of Miramanee" was the best. You were right, Indysolo, about how that cello sting would affect me.
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The samples are just excerpts... I'm sure it'll be full on the actual album.
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Oh, I'm ecstatic over the "Monster Illusion" excerpt. I didn't expect that at all, as it is the single most important piece of Trek score I've been anticipating! Too bad the other seasons are looking so bloody fantastic and I still want the whole bloody set!
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Old December 4 2012, 02:40 AM   #525
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The samples are just excerpts... I'm sure it'll be full on the actual album.
No, I'm not talking about a separate portion of the cue; I'm talking about an ostinato that played under the part that was included, under the sung melody. It didn't seem to be there in this version of the cue, so I'm guessing it was added for the library version. I think it's heard pretty prominently in "This Side of Paradise" when Spock gets zapped with the spores.
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