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Old December 3 2012, 03:27 PM   #16
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Re: Season Seven so far has been Redundant.

I rather enjoyed the last 6 episodes, cant wait for the rest of them next year.....also looking forward to the xmas episode.
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Old December 3 2012, 03:28 PM   #17
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^^ If it's good enough for Sarah Jane, it's good enough for any of the rest!
Drawn-out good-byes is more of an RTD thing anyway. Though it seems Moffat is going to continue that.
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Old December 3 2012, 03:30 PM   #18
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^^ If it's good enough for Sarah Jane, it's good enough for any of the rest!
I was three years old when Sarah Jane left the series. I'd say that what we expect from television has changed quite a bit since then.
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Old December 3 2012, 04:21 PM   #19
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Re: Season Seven so far has been Redundant.

I enjoyed the tail end of Series 6 and Series 7 so far, but I wouldn't have been disappointed if the Ponds' first farewell at the end of the hotel episode had been their final episode, aside from the quick glimpse in "Closing Time". It didn't have an overly elaborate build-up and had the right amount of abruptness and bittersweetness. It felt right to me. It seemed sudden to Amy, and it would have been to us if we didn't know they were coming back.
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Old December 3 2012, 04:26 PM   #20
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My problem with that is that the Ponds' "farewell" in Season 6 didn't even feel remotely real. It came out of nowhere at the end of a weird episode about an alien Minotaur that feeds on faith. I remember the Doctor dropping them off at their new house and feeling confused because the goodbye felt like a fake out.
Well, that is how a lot of the companion farewells went in the classic era. And really, that was good enough. Their story had been told and they were off to live happily ever after. Then we end up with them returning to the fold for one more adventure until eventually they end up stranded away from the Doctor for the rest of their lives.
It depends on the character.

With a companion like Martha, for example, that worked. At the end of her season, the Doctor just dropped her off at home. There was no big goodbye because the Doctor himself never really developed any kind of big attachment to her.

But for Amy, her goodbye needed to be bigger. Their relationship was so much deeper that a casual goodbye just didn't work as well.
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Old December 3 2012, 04:28 PM   #21
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^^ If it's good enough for Sarah Jane, it's good enough for any of the rest!
And he didn't even drop SarahJane off in the right town
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Old December 3 2012, 09:28 PM   #22
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With a companion like Martha, for example, that worked. At the end of her season, the Doctor just dropped her off at home. There was no big goodbye because the Doctor himself never really developed any kind of big attachment to her.
That's cold.
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Old December 3 2012, 10:21 PM   #23
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With a companion like Martha, for example, that worked. At the end of her season, the Doctor just dropped her off at home. There was no big goodbye because the Doctor himself never really developed any kind of big attachment to her.
That's cold.
The problem was Martha was written really we except for her Rose-carry-over storyline of craving after the Doctor, which seemed to come out of left field sometime near Gridlock.

Her unrequited love speech at the end of her travels was lame as it was clear the Doctor wasn't interested in rebound sex (what a pillock), and it should been dropped. Having companions wanting to shag the Doctor was a very RTD thing, and at least Moffat had the idea of bringing Rory in to divert that. Martha was probably my favourite companion of the new era but the love arc just ruined it.
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Old December 4 2012, 01:29 AM   #24
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He was as pig ignorant about her feelings as she was about his.

The unrequited love speech was "This is why I am leaving you great big muppet" more so than "last chance dude, please, please, please."
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Old December 4 2012, 06:42 PM   #25
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^^ If it's good enough for Sarah Jane, it's good enough for any of the rest!
And he didn't even drop SarahJane off in the right town
On the plus side it was the right planet, and the right country on that planet and the correct time period.

Given the noted unrealiablity of the TARDIS to take him where he wants to go, I say he did well.
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