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Old December 2 2012, 07:43 PM   #31
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Re: No More SOTL Calendars After 2013?

I'm convinced that there's room for both 'verses on my library shelving, but management may be in need of the reminder of that being the case. And not just for my own self, by the looks of things.

One more quotation from my Facebook commentary re: the SOTL calendars...

"None of mine are unopened. I bought mine for the artwork, and I do take them out of the bookshelf and look at the works of the mighty...and *cease* to despair for a time..."
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Old December 2 2012, 10:46 PM   #32
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I am worried that Paramount may cancel as well the Star Trek: The Illustrated Dictionary and the Enterprise book by Michael Okuda.
What books are these?
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Old December 2 2012, 10:53 PM   #33
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I am worried that Paramount may cancel as well the Star Trek: The Illustrated Dictionary and the Enterprise book by Michael Okuda.
What books are these?

Actually, I think the title of the first is Star Trek: The Visual Dictionary.
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Old December 2 2012, 11:00 PM   #34
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^Pocket Books still has a full slate of Prime-universe Star Trek novels in the works for publication in 2013, including several original-series novels in the first half of the year, my own Enterprise-era book Rise of the Federation: A Choice of Futures in July, and a 5-book 24th-century crossover saga called The Fall in, well, the fall and winter. I'm not getting any sense that classic Trek is being pushed aside.
If the decision was made after those books were already contracted, would they be able to stop them being published?
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Old December 2 2012, 11:02 PM   #35
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Yes.

The Abrams-verse books were written & ready to go before the plug was pulled.
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Old December 2 2012, 11:07 PM   #36
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But this "merchandise embargo" has already been put into effect where the CDs are concerned, at least. If it were going to happen to the books, I think I'd have heard about it by now.
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Old December 2 2012, 11:10 PM   #37
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Good point. Let's just hope no one changes their minds.
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Old December 3 2012, 01:46 AM   #38
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Also: I was looking forward to that Probert "Wolf 359 Aftermath" painting for next year...
Is the painting done? I would love to see that
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Old December 3 2012, 02:01 AM   #39
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A "merchandise embargo" on Trek Prime really doesn't make sense. Especially considering Bad Robot doesn't allow anything from the Abramsverse without their direct supervision, and that has led to a few delays, like with those YA novels.

And besides, Prime merchandising kicked it up a notch in 2009 without having a negative impact on Trek XI.

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Also: I was looking forward to that Probert "Wolf 359 Aftermath" painting for next year...
Damn, just that sentence is awesome. And another good reason to mourn.
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Old December 3 2012, 02:19 AM   #40
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Patrick: No idea.

Wormhole: It is indeed awesome. Details over at the Drex Files as to what Probert's been aiming for...
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Old December 3 2012, 02:47 AM   #41
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Patrick: No idea.

Wormhole: It is indeed awesome. Details over at the Drex Files as to what Probert's been aiming for...
Cool. Thanks for the link
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Old December 3 2012, 05:10 AM   #42
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Sorry to hear this, but I had a hard time finding this years calendar since Borders closed. (Got last years at the liquidation sale.) Typical, they make something hard to find then cancel it for lack of sales.
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Old December 3 2012, 07:14 AM   #43
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Here are links to the books I mentioned earlier:

Star Trek: The Next Generation - On Board the U.S.S. Enterprise
http://www.amazon.com/Star-Trek-Gene...I2KM4PTA8U3K3T

Star Trek: The Visual Dictionary
http://www.amazon.com/Star-Trek-The-...=IXYI1AP2DQ8I1
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Old December 3 2012, 07:26 AM   #44
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A "merchandise embargo" on Trek Prime really doesn't make sense.
Gene Roddenberry himself urged Paramount to put an embargo on TOS-in-syndication about four months before the premiere of ST:TMP. It made fans even hungrier for new Trek. Embargoes aren't usually permanent. They are planned marketing strategies designed to narrow the focus of a campaign.

We heard much of oversaturation when TNG movies were coming out while DS9 and VOY were on the air. Rick Berman quashed a "Starfleet Academy" animated series early in TNG's run with a similar fear.

If CBS and Paramount Marketing have received feedback that the potential viewership of the new movie might be easily confused by two timelines being promoted at once, they may take cautious steps to refocus. It's about maximising profits in the long run, not reducing profits across the board or letting the franchise get watered down.

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Typical, they make something hard to find then cancel it for lack of sales.
Or, the publisher creates a licensed product in sufficient quantities and their usual distributors suddenly fail to pick it up, or shops fail to order it, leaving stock in warehouses to eventually get remaindered or pulped.

The SOTL 2013 calendar is readily available online.

Sales of all wall calendars is down. They have become ancient technology.
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Old December 3 2012, 02:56 PM   #45
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A "merchandise embargo" on Trek Prime really doesn't make sense.
Gene Roddenberry himself urged Paramount to put an embargo on TOS-in-syndication about four months before the premiere of ST:TMP. It made fans even hungrier for new Trek. Embargoes aren't usually permanent. They are planned marketing strategies designed to narrow the focus of a campaign.

We heard much of oversaturation when TNG movies were coming out while DS9 and VOY were on the air. Rick Berman quashed a "Starfleet Academy" animated series early in TNG's run with a similar fear.

If CBS and Paramount Marketing have received feedback that the potential viewership of the new movie might be easily confused by two timelines being promoted at once, they may take cautious steps to refocus. It's about maximising profits in the long run, not reducing profits across the board or letting the franchise get watered down.
Trek XI's release saw an increase in Trek merchandise related to the prime timeline. TOS was released on blu-ray, all ten previous movies were released on blu-ray, special DVDs were released containing the best of TOS and TNG. Not to mention most stores had big displays of previous Trek releases on DVD at special prices, and so on. None of this had a nagative impact on Trek XI.

Likewise, special re-releases of all the previous Bond movies were out in recent months. No negative impact on Skyfall. Selling Bond movies with other actors in the role didn't confuse the audience.

Likewise, whenever superhero movies are relased, there's no embargo on other movies, TV shows, comics, whatever featuring that character in other continuities. Hell, this past summer there were new Batman comics, graphic novels, prose novels, and an animated movie, none of which existed in the same continuity as the Nolan movies, and TDKR still ruled the box office.

There's room for two Star Trek continuites to exist together. There's no need to embargo the previous continuity for the sake of a new movie.
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