SpaceX is a go for April 30th: 1st commercial launch to space station - Page 17

gturner · December 2 2012, 07:12 AM

I just read it in Baghdad Bob's voice and it's pretty funny.

Byeman · December 2 2012, 08:15 PM

publiusr wrote:

That and a case of recto-cranial infarction.

Actually, it is you with his head up Griffin's ass.

You are only second to Gaetano Marano in spreading nonsense and lies in spaceflight forums.

Robert Maxwell · December 3 2012, 02:34 AM

Byeman wrote:

publiusr wrote:

Remember, it was The Aerospace Corporation that "participated in the planning and development of system requirements for the Evolved Expendable Launch Vehicle (EELV) program" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Aerospace_Corporation

Now early on, the EELV fans took shots at Ares/Constellation, and floated all this depot nonsense specifically to launch scores of EELV since the 1990's DOT.COM bubble burst and the teledesic internet in the sky deal fell through: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teledesic

This all left the DoD saddled with two rockets--an albatross they tried to force on Griffin's neck, and a lot of people believed their hype about how NASA shouldn't be in the rocket building business, and should rely on private space manufacturers--meaning EELV.

And then Musk came along--a true private space company. Then--all of a sudden, the Aerospace Corp--retired Blue Suiters mind you, changed their minds and said that maybe the time isn't right for true private space:
http://spacetalknow.org/wordpress/?p=2728
http://tweetmeme.com/story/458747744...cts-nasa-watch
www.bautforum.com/showthread.php/114170-Falcon-9-Heavy-and-propellant-depots?p=1873638#post1873638

There was talk about preserving infrastructure. In a recent column from Aviation Week and Space Technology, Musk responded with the question "Whose infrastructure are we preserving? what with Russian RD-180s, AN-124s etc.

Now isn't that interesting? Anytime someone talks to you about costs of this or that--think about where they are coming from. When Musk launched his first rockets, the EELVs were also just getting started. Musk was forced off the coast under the aegis of "range safety"--as if an EELV couldn't have went off course and hit his rocket instead. My guess is that this was done to eat his paypal fortune alive in immense logistics costs--and to price him out of the market--so he would quit like Beal did.

But Musk didn't. Now, seeing that the same folks who put heavy-lift down are the same folks who went after Musk--can you really believe the figures they spouted, especially now after the Druyen tanker scandal, the EELV data theft all forgotten now that Boeing and Lockmart are one big happy fleet under ULA, etc?So SLS hits ULA high, and Space X hits them low. No wonder the EELV folks squawk so much.

What a bunch of crap, disinformation and outright lies.

Given this and your subsequent posts, I have given you an infraction for flaming but I could have also given one for spamming. I cautioned you before about this.

I would normally say "comments to PM," but you don't have enough posts to use private messages yet. In light of that, you can email me at gorzek (at) gmail (dot) com if you wish to discuss further.

Everyone else: stop the dogpiling or I'll hand out more infractions. Discuss the topic of the thread, not individual posters.

Crazy Eddie · December 3 2012, 04:00 AM

Snowjourner wrote:

Oh I wasn't referring to his reply to you, just the point for points he made against publiusr.

So was I.

RAMA · February 27 2013, 07:55 PM

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_2693850.html

The next private cargo mission to the International Space Station is slated to blast off March 1

sojourner · February 28 2013, 12:24 AM

Yep, got my webcast feeds already to go.

sojourner · March 1 2013, 04:33 PM

Well, the launch was perfect, but there's something wrong with the Dragon capsule. No word on whether it's a mission failure at this point or the nature of the problem. Press conference in a couple hours should reveal more.

YellowSubmarine · March 1 2013, 04:48 PM

That sucks. I hope it recovers. Solar array deployment trouble?

sojourner · March 1 2013, 05:34 PM

3 of 4 thrusters are being inhibited by the flight computer for some reason. the byproduct is that solar arrays won't deploy until at least 2 thruster units are operational. The solar arrays aren't much of an issue, they have 18 hours of battery life on board.

So the issue is getting the thrusters online before they miss critical maneuvers needed to rendezvous with ISS.

YellowSubmarine · March 1 2013, 05:55 PM

Ah. Anyway, the solar arrays were deployed. I think they got a second thruster pod online, judging by Elon's tweets, but I can't tell.

Edit: Apparently they did. Two more to go.

gturner · March 1 2013, 06:39 PM

"Initializing thrusters..."

* a little hour-glass just sits there, occassionally turning over. *

* Elon right-clicks on the task bar, pulls up task manager, kills the thruster processes, and then goes to Control Panel-> Administrative Tools-> Services -> Thrusters, right-clicks and selects "Start". *

All better now.

sojourner · March 1 2013, 07:30 PM

^hehe.

They use Linux on board though.

gturner · March 1 2013, 08:52 PM

Well, that's why the fix worked.

If they used Windows the Dragon's orbit would decay and it would crash into the ocean months before Microsoft technical support would admit they had an issue.

Crazy Eddie · March 1 2013, 10:39 PM

As of 30 minutes ago, all four thruster pods operating normally. Pretty sure they made the window for transfer to station rendezvous orbit, so they should still be on schedule.

If so, this is the second time in a row they've had a major glitch in the flight and the second time in a row they have managed to correct it without so much as a minor delay.

Mark_Nguyen · March 1 2013, 10:55 PM

Not quite - space.com is reporting that they may have to move the scheduled docking from tomorrow to Sunday. Not a HUGE problem, but there's fresh fruit on board! :P

Mark

December 2 2012, 07:12 AM	#241
gturner Admiral Location: Kentucky	Re: SpaceX is a go for April 30th: 1st commercial launch to space stat I just read it in Baghdad Bob's voice and it's pretty funny.

February 27 2013, 07:55 PM	#245
RAMA Vice Admiral Location: NJ, USA	Re: SpaceX is a go for April 30th: 1st commercial launch to space stat http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_2693850.html The next private cargo mission to the International Space Station is slated to blast off March 1 __________________ “Most people do not listen with the intent to understand; they listen with the intent to reply.”—Stephen R. Covey

February 28 2013, 12:24 AM	#246
sojourner Vice Admiral Location: I'm at WKRP	Re: SpaceX is a go for April 30th: 1st commercial launch to space stat Yep, got my webcast feeds already to go. __________________ Baby, you and me were never meant to be, just maybe think of me once in a while...

March 1 2013, 04:33 PM	#247
sojourner Vice Admiral Location: I'm at WKRP	Re: SpaceX is a go for April 30th: 1st commercial launch to space stat Well, the launch was perfect, but there's something wrong with the Dragon capsule. No word on whether it's a mission failure at this point or the nature of the problem. Press conference in a couple hours should reveal more. __________________ Baby, you and me were never meant to be, just maybe think of me once in a while...

March 1 2013, 04:48 PM	#248
YellowSubmarine Commodore	Re: SpaceX is a go for April 30th: 1st commercial launch to space stat That sucks. I hope it recovers. Solar array deployment trouble? __________________ R.I.P. Admiral James T. Kirk (2233-2267, 1969, 2267, 1930, 2267-2268, 1968, 2268-2269, Serpeidon Middle Ages, 2269, 2237, 2269-2286, 1986, 2286-2293, 2371)

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March 1 2013, 05:34 PM	#249
sojourner Vice Admiral Location: I'm at WKRP	Re: SpaceX is a go for April 30th: 1st commercial launch to space stat 3 of 4 thrusters are being inhibited by the flight computer for some reason. the byproduct is that solar arrays won't deploy until at least 2 thruster units are operational. The solar arrays aren't much of an issue, they have 18 hours of battery life on board. So the issue is getting the thrusters online before they miss critical maneuvers needed to rendezvous with ISS. __________________ Baby, you and me were never meant to be, just maybe think of me once in a while...

March 1 2013, 05:55 PM	#250
YellowSubmarine Commodore	Re: SpaceX is a go for April 30th: 1st commercial launch to space stat Ah. Anyway, the solar arrays were deployed. I think they got a second thruster pod online, judging by Elon's tweets, but I can't tell. Edit: Apparently they did. Two more to go. __________________ R.I.P. Admiral James T. Kirk (2233-2267, 1969, 2267, 1930, 2267-2268, 1968, 2268-2269, Serpeidon Middle Ages, 2269, 2237, 2269-2286, 1986, 2286-2293, 2371) Last edited by YellowSubmarine; March 1 2013 at 06:10 PM.

March 1 2013, 06:39 PM	#251
gturner Admiral Location: Kentucky	Re: SpaceX is a go for April 30th: 1st commercial launch to space stat "Initializing thrusters..." * a little hour-glass just sits there, occassionally turning over. * * Elon right-clicks on the task bar, pulls up task manager, kills the thruster processes, and then goes to Control Panel-> Administrative Tools-> Services -> Thrusters, right-clicks and selects "Start". * All better now.

March 1 2013, 07:30 PM	#252
sojourner Vice Admiral Location: I'm at WKRP	Re: SpaceX is a go for April 30th: 1st commercial launch to space stat ^hehe. They use Linux on board though. __________________ Baby, you and me were never meant to be, just maybe think of me once in a while...

March 1 2013, 08:52 PM	#253
gturner Admiral Location: Kentucky	Re: SpaceX is a go for April 30th: 1st commercial launch to space stat Well, that's why the fix worked. If they used Windows the Dragon's orbit would decay and it would crash into the ocean months before Microsoft technical support would admit they had an issue.

March 1 2013, 10:39 PM	#254
Crazy Eddie Rear Admiral Location: I'm in your ___, ___ing your ___	Re: SpaceX is a go for April 30th: 1st commercial launch to space stat As of 30 minutes ago, all four thruster pods operating normally. Pretty sure they made the window for transfer to station rendezvous orbit, so they should still be on schedule. If so, this is the second time in a row they've had a major glitch in the flight and the second time in a row they have managed to correct it without so much as a minor delay. __________________ It appears to be powered by some form of electricity...

March 1 2013, 10:55 PM	#255
Mark_Nguyen Commodore Location: Calgary, Alberta	Re: SpaceX is a go for April 30th: 1st commercial launch to space stat Not quite - space.com is reporting that they may have to move the scheduled docking from tomorrow to Sunday. Not a HUGE problem, but there's fresh fruit on board! :P Mark __________________ Mark Nguyen - Producer The 404s - Improv Comedy Group Oh, I like that Trek thing too...