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Old November 26 2012, 05:38 PM   #46
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^I'm sure other shows could flesh out there characters as well if they wanted to.

But in the case of some trek shows that might mean les treknobabble. Surely a crime against good writing.
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Old November 28 2012, 04:23 PM   #47
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6.) And finally ... Jake. Yeah, I know, but honestly, he gets major bonus points for essentially being the anti-Wesley. He sort of fades into the background in later season, but early on he has some episodes in which he really shines. "The Visitor" still breaks my heart a little bit. The relationship between father and son is truly touching, and from what I understand, Avery Brooks and Cirroc Lofton didn't have to do much acting there, because they actually became that close in real life.

So there's my list y'all.
Yeah, there were a lot of nice father/son moments. I wasn't into Jake as a character, but the moments do stick out in my mind.
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Old November 29 2012, 09:18 PM   #48
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6.) And finally ... Jake. Yeah, I know, but honestly, he gets major bonus points for essentially being the anti-Wesley. He sort of fades into the background in later season, but early on he has some episodes in which he really shines. "The Visitor" still breaks my heart a little bit. The relationship between father and son is truly touching, and from what I understand, Avery Brooks and Cirroc Lofton didn't have to do much acting there, because they actually became that close in real life.
I always thought the thing that made Jake interesting- the fact that he didn't choose a life in Starfleet- was also his character's undoing. Afterall, this is a show about Starfleet, so him choosing to not to join made him purposeless to most of the storylines once he was no longer a kid. Likewise, Nog choosing to do what Jake didn't made his character shine.
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Old December 1 2012, 03:02 AM   #49
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The one bad character develop decision I think they made in DS9 was Bashir's genetic engineering. For two major reasons. First, no matter how much they try to explain it by 'Pretending', no, it didn't make sense with his previous behavior. Second, I get that DS9 is the anti-Trek Trek, but it still doesn't make sense in the Starfleet universe to treat people as second class citizens and prisoners based on being genetically engineered.

Now, here's the genetically engineered kid story they should have told in DS9. Starfleet has rules against genetically engineered kids being part of Starfleet. Ok. Romulans/some other bad guy race say "Hey, we like genetically engineered people! Join us and live in luxury in exchange for your services."
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Old December 1 2012, 04:46 AM   #50
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I don't know. I thought Jake not deciding to join Starfleet was a nice touch. Every child of a Starfleet officer can't want to join, and it was nice to see that. I think they did a fine job of taking Jake's interest in journalism and making it relevant in certain episodes like Nor the Battle to the Strong.

I liked the genetically engineered reveal with Bashir. Shrugs.
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Old December 1 2012, 06:43 AM   #51
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I don't know. I thought Jake not deciding to join Starfleet was a nice touch. Every child of a Starfleet officer can't want to join, and it was nice to see that. I think they did a fine job of taking Jake's interest in journalism and making it relevant in certain episodes like Nor the Battle to the Strong.

I liked the genetically engineered reveal with Bashir. Shrugs.
Early on Jake did seem destined to be Wesley Crusher 2.0, but I'm glad they took him away from that route too. It made him seem so much more real and genuine. Nor the Battle to the Strong was an excellent example of an average guy thrown into a Star Trek scenario and one I enjoyed(also one of the few examples of a military in Trek using -gasp- artillery).

Bashir's genetic reveal was kind of artificial and forced and if they were going to do something like that, I wished it had been from the beginning. I will say one of the things that made DS9 good, was that they took the "annoying character" and did try and improve upon him.
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Old December 5 2012, 08:22 PM   #52
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1. Garek
2. Bashir (even though I don't like the genetic engineering thing, I think he's developed very well over the years)
3. Quark
4. Jadzia Dax
5. Gul Dukat

I had thought this thread was favorites and least favorites, but I was wrong, but I really need to say that my least favorites (just to get it off my chest )

The O'Brien family...yes...all of them. I groan whenever I see its an O-Brien centric episode...they are almost as annoying as a Bajorian centric episodes to me.

But that's all just my opinion, I'm sure others like them more than some of my faves.
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Old December 6 2012, 05:01 AM   #53
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Jake is one of the characters who was developed the best.

In first season of TNG, it's established that six year old humans learn calculus. Jake, he's more a real human child. He's smart, but not a genius. He loves his father but wants to escape from his shadow. You know from the start he's not a TNG uber-child.

But, he's still a progressive human. Just a progressive human we can imagine a little better, with the same human instincts as everyone else.
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