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Old November 28 2012, 10:17 PM   #31
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Considering the fact that Germany was essentially forced into the war due to alliances and French/Russian agression while the Americans and British joined in to show how big their dicks were...
Well if we are talking WWI, from memory it was the invasion of Beligum with which Britain had a defensive treaty with that brought the UK into that war.

Treaty of London 1839

http://www.firstworldwar.com/source/london1839.htm

So how does honouring a treaty equate to joing to show how big their dicks are as you put it?
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Old November 28 2012, 10:22 PM   #32
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Because they didn't actually care about the treaty and had plans drawn up to enter the war and attack Germany via an invasion through Belgium?
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Old November 28 2012, 11:01 PM   #33
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The United States joined the war after a document was intercepted and decoded by the British that demonstrated that Germany had proposed to Mexico that this country should allied itself with the European nation and invade its neighbor to the north.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zimmerman_Telegraph

Many in the United States were opposed to entering into a war in Europe. Like what happen later in WWII, it was a real or perceived threat on our nation that prompted our leaders to declare war. In WWII, our nation might not have gotten into the European war if it wasn't for a treaty that Germany and Italy signed with Japan. Under the terms of the treaty, if one of the signatories was under attack, the other two nations were obligated to declare war on the aggressor. (When I said above "gotten into the European war", I am not discounting the efforts made by the Americans to provide aid to the nations fighting Nazi Germany. When I said the above, I was referring to the notion of troops on the ground.)
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Old November 28 2012, 11:40 PM   #34
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I would love to see a medieval Battlefield type game set during something like the crusades. Instead of AK-47's and Fighter Jets you'd have Crossbows and Swords and Catapults. Teams of players would form together in a Phalanx formation to defend from enemy archers when besieging a castle. It would be awesome.
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Old November 29 2012, 02:37 AM   #35
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sort of like that terrible medieval dynasty warriors type game they made, and whose name escapes me at the moment.
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Old November 29 2012, 03:05 AM   #36
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Medieval armies didn't use the phalanx maneuver - the Ancient Greeks did.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phalanx_formation
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Old November 29 2012, 03:16 AM   #37
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Which was the Medal of Honor game that focused onthe Pacific Theater? I would like to look at some sales numbers.
"World at War". It was pretty good until you got the obligatory Stalingrad mission at which point I stopped playing.
The Soviet campaign was there because Treyarch wanted the game to be about the end of World War II, so they focused the campaigns around the fall of Berlin (even though Infinity Ward had already covered it in CoD1) and the Japanese surrender. I agree that including yet another Stalingrad mission was a little lame, but they made it somewhat interesting and they put it to good use in an important part of the storyline for Black Ops.

A CoD game focusing entirely on the Pacific theater would have been cool, though. An American campaign and a British campaign, maybe the Australians, too.
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Old November 29 2012, 08:56 PM   #38
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The only interesting games made about WWI involve air combat. A realistic ground combat game set during WWI would just be horribly depressing. A more pointless waste of human lives, the world has not seen.

I think people like WWII as a setting for video games because it has such clear heroes and villains. That kind of narrative simplicity is lacking in most wars. It's hard to find a greater real-world evil than Hitler and Nazi Germany. Likewise, WWI didn't have any real "winner," a bunch of people just died for no good reason. Thousands perished fighting for months over a mile-wide strip of land. Stuff like that isn't engaging or fun, it's just awful.
That is a very western take on the First World War. The front lines in the east were much more fluid and trench warfare was the exception rather than the rule.
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Old November 29 2012, 09:02 PM   #39
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Re: Wars and campaigns that were largely ignored by FPS's

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The only interesting games made about WWI involve air combat. A realistic ground combat game set during WWI would just be horribly depressing. A more pointless waste of human lives, the world has not seen.

I think people like WWII as a setting for video games because it has such clear heroes and villains. That kind of narrative simplicity is lacking in most wars. It's hard to find a greater real-world evil than Hitler and Nazi Germany. Likewise, WWI didn't have any real "winner," a bunch of people just died for no good reason. Thousands perished fighting for months over a mile-wide strip of land. Stuff like that isn't engaging or fun, it's just awful.
That is a very western take on the First World War. The front lines in the east were much more fluid and trench warfare was the exception rather than the rule.
I'd be cool with a game about the Eastern Front then.
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Old November 29 2012, 09:37 PM   #40
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Is there a power on the Eastern Front for which a good guy narative would work?
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Old November 29 2012, 09:45 PM   #41
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Is there a power on the Eastern Front for which a good guy narative would work?
A game about the Romanian campaign could be interesting, focusing on Romania's attempts to retake Transylvania and it's majority-Romanian population.

They ultimately lost, but still!
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Old November 29 2012, 11:12 PM   #42
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The only interesting games made about WWI involve air combat. A realistic ground combat game set during WWI would just be horribly depressing. A more pointless waste of human lives, the world has not seen.

I think people like WWII as a setting for video games because it has such clear heroes and villains. That kind of narrative simplicity is lacking in most wars. It's hard to find a greater real-world evil than Hitler and Nazi Germany. Likewise, WWI didn't have any real "winner," a bunch of people just died for no good reason. Thousands perished fighting for months over a mile-wide strip of land. Stuff like that isn't engaging or fun, it's just awful.
That is a very western take on the First World War. The front lines in the east were much more fluid and trench warfare was the exception rather than the rule.
I'd be cool with a game about the Eastern Front then.
It was also kind of one-sided.
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Old November 29 2012, 11:58 PM   #43
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Is there a power on the Eastern Front for which a good guy narative would work?
A game about the Romanian campaign could be interesting, focusing on Romania's attempts to retake Transylvania and it's majority-Romanian population.

They ultimately lost, but still!
If they do a WW1 shooter it would never happen. It lacks a big enough mainstream apeal. What was so funny about tha front?
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Old November 30 2012, 06:46 AM   #44
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Has there ever been a Korean War FPS? The only times I remember fighting in the Korean War was in flight sims.

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I would love to see a medieval Battlefield type game set during something like the crusades. Instead of AK-47's and Fighter Jets you'd have Crossbows and Swords and Catapults. Teams of players would form together in a Phalanx formation to defend from enemy archers when besieging a castle. It would be awesome.
Two multiplayer games similar to that have come out recently: War of the Roses and Chivalry: Medieval Warfare. You have bows, crossbows, long swords, polearms, etc.
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Old December 2 2012, 10:53 PM   #45
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Two multiplayer games similar to that have come out recently: War of the Roses and Chivalry: Medieval Warfare. You have bows, crossbows, long swords, polearms, etc.
Wow, those look fantastic and exactly what I was looking for in a game. I don't think my computer can handle War of the Roses very well, but googling seems to suggest that Chivalry is the better game anyway. I'll definitely have to check this out. Hmm...

I would love to see Mega Man Legends 3! I'll check back in a few days.
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