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The Next Generation All Good Things come to an end...but not here.

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Old November 29 2012, 12:31 PM   #1
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Mystery ship? Can anyone help?

Hi All,

I have been going crazy trying to find a specific scene from a specific episode of TNG. A friend is telling me it never happened which I just cannot believe.

What I remember is that the Enterprise approached a planet and an immensely superior and futuristic ship appeared with both energy and physical shields, it shot at the Enterprise with energy weapons that Gordie mentions as creating a huge energy surge in the Enterprise. The Enterprise fights back and the ship flys away, the Enterprise chases but the ship matches the Enterprises acceleration perfectly, so they can't catch it. Eventually they give up and Ricker says something like, "The one that got away".. I think Q summoned the ship to try and keep the Enterprise from going to the planet, but can't be sure. Thing is, I've searched every episode with Q and can't find this scene.

Has anyone any idea? I know I've seen this but can't find it.

Thanks guys,
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Old November 29 2012, 01:01 PM   #2
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Re: Mystery ship? Can anyone help?

It sounds like it's from The Survivors (season 3?). Although it wasn't summoned by Q, it was summoned by a god-like being, and I recall the scene matching your description more or less.
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Old November 29 2012, 01:48 PM   #3
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Yup... Sounds like it's this baby all right:

http://tng.trekcore.com/gallery/albu...rvivors106.jpg

Seems this model was later extensively modified to become Kivas Fajo's private ship in "The Most Toys" (the engines at the rear are the telltale), and then redone several times until it became a Bajoran (Cardassian?) ship, the triangular one with triangular nacelles. One of the better reworkings, as the ship is nearly unidentifiable each time she gets a makeover.

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Old November 29 2012, 05:27 PM   #4
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That's it!!!! Thank you so much guys!
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Old November 29 2012, 09:17 PM   #5
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Re: Mystery ship? Can anyone help?

I wonder if Husnock would have posed a serious problem to Starfleet. That ship is 5 times the mass of Enterprise, which shows they have a decent industrial capacity, and at 50 billion population they would have had a small empire at least.
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Old November 29 2012, 09:21 PM   #6
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EmperorTiberius wrote: View Post
I wonder if Husnock would have posed a serious problem to Starfleet. That ship is 5 times the mass of Enterprise, which shows they have a decent industrial capacity, and at 50 billion population they would have had a small empire at least.
That's assuming the ship was perfectly modeled after the Husnock and their ship and capability and not just a general ship created by the Dowd as a threat to the Enterprise.
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Old November 29 2012, 09:54 PM   #7
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Trekker4747 wrote: View Post
EmperorTiberius wrote: View Post
I wonder if Husnock would have posed a serious problem to Starfleet. That ship is 5 times the mass of Enterprise, which shows they have a decent industrial capacity, and at 50 billion population they would have had a small empire at least.
That's assuming the ship was perfectly modeled after the Husnock and their ship and capability and not just a general ship created by the Dowd as a threat to the Enterprise.
Yeah I guess so. Dowd said that he tried to trick the Husnock in the simlar way. Perphaps he used the same ship or a fake Starfleet ship.
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Old November 29 2012, 10:17 PM   #8
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Re: Mystery ship? Can anyone help?

The Husnock ship was originally made with CG. I'm sure it's gonna look great on Blu-ray.
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Old December 4 2012, 08:00 PM   #9
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jimbotron wrote: View Post
The Husnock ship was originally made with CG. I'm sure it's gonna look great on Blu-ray.

Never heard that before. You sure about that?

Either way it was a cool battle and neat to see the Ent. go up against something superior.
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Old December 5 2012, 04:19 AM   #10
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It wasn't CG. The filming model was built by Tony Meininger.
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Old December 5 2012, 12:27 PM   #11
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In the scene where the model dives towards the planet to destroy the Uxbridge estate, you can see the stern and the telltale shapes of the red-glowing engines and the angled tubular things.

http://tng.trekcore.com/gallery/albu...rvivors203.jpg

This rear end will pop up again several times in TNG and DS9... With significant physical modifications and added detail, as the initial Husnock model appears very smooth and lacking in "scale establishers" other than the portholes.

This variant is seen in "The Most Toys" and "Silicon Avatar":

http://tng.trekcore.com/gallery/albu...osttoys001.jpg

This one is seen in Bajoran and Cardassian hands:

http://tng.trekcore.com/gallery/albu...nsignro230.jpg

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Old December 5 2012, 04:05 PM   #12
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Timo wrote: View Post
In the scene where the model dives towards the planet to destroy the Uxbridge estate, you can see the stern and the telltale shapes of the red-glowing engines and the angled tubular things.

http://tng.trekcore.com/gallery/albu...rvivors203.jpg

This rear end will pop up again several times in TNG and DS9... With significant physical modifications and added detail, as the initial Husnock model appears very smooth and lacking in "scale establishers" other than the portholes.

This variant is seen in "The Most Toys" and "Silicon Avatar":

http://tng.trekcore.com/gallery/albu...osttoys001.jpg

This one is seen in Bajoran and Cardassian hands:

http://tng.trekcore.com/gallery/albu...nsignro230.jpg

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Old December 8 2012, 07:00 AM   #13
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Oh, my mistake. I must be thinking of another ship.

Speaking of CGI, thank goodness this will finally get replaced:

http://tng.trekcore.com/gallery/albu...command191.jpg
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Old December 8 2012, 10:22 AM   #14
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jimbotron wrote: View Post
Speaking of CGI, thank goodness this will finally get replaced:

http://tng.trekcore.com/gallery/albu...command191.jpg
Sorry, but there is no CGI in that scene either. That's the two-foot Enterprise and (I think) a redress of the Merchant ship from Star Trek III.
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Old December 8 2012, 02:19 PM   #15
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^ I think he meant that CGI would allow them to replace all those instances of the same model being used, if they decide to go that route.

Or at least that poor quality shot specifically.
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