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Old November 29 2012, 05:25 AM   #196
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Re: is "Into Darkness" Quinto's last as Spock?

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I added the '+' when talking about Iron Man and Man of Steel to show that both have expectations to hit above that mark. With Iron Man 1 and 2 both grossing more than $600 million each.

Warner Brothers has said that if the 2006 Superman Returns had made half a billion dollars they would've pushed harder for a sequel to that film. Man of Steel has a $500 million dollar bar it needs to jump.

Ideally I would like Into Darkness to make as much money as Ghost Protocol with more than $600 million dollar gross, but that may be hoping too much. You're right about Trek not being as "bullet proof" as Twilight and Star Wars. Which was my concern. With Star Wars having such strong Star Power and JJ being so tight lipped about his sequel movie it's hard not to assume that at this moment and possibly 6 months from now Wars' fire will be burning brighter than Trek's. With both a successful writer and director so far. The next step is casting and story details which will further fan Wars' fires.


Back to Quinto. I feel if there wasn't such a delay in the release of the two movies Quinto wouldn't be so ready to leave after the next film. You look at Trek actors what have they done that's had the same success as Trek 09? Pine did unstoppable which had moderate success. Saldana did Columbiana which was panned by critics and wasn't a big financial hit. Karl Urban did Dredd recently and that flopped at the B.O. The only actor who had any success after ST09 was Simon Pegg and he's barely in the first movie. As an actor you're a type of artist and you go where the work is. Quinto 35, doesn't want his only notable things to be Sylar from Heroes and Spock from Star Trek. With the Trek films being once in a blue moon thing apparently I see why he is looking at other opportunities
Quinto wanting out is Fan speculation, there is no actual statement of it, and I interpret "The Evidence" of it differently.

Interesting the way Zoe was credited with Columbiana, but not Avatar, and didn't Chris Pine recently have a successful comedy (comedy would have far lower budget, and therefore success is much lower box office)?

Quinto not notable beyond Heroes and NuSpock? Hasn't he been honing his craft with stage and Independents, plus I believe his roles on AHS are lauded
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Old November 29 2012, 05:56 AM   #197
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I didn't bring up Avatar for Saldana because it also was released in 2009. December 18th to be exact. By the time Star Trek 09 was in theaters, Avatar was in post-production. Her contributions had already been added before ST09 debuted.

Everyone else I don't follow religiously but I could check their IMDB pages.
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Old November 29 2012, 06:10 AM   #198
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Warner Brothers has said that if the 2006 Superman Returns had made half a billion dollars they would've pushed harder for a sequel to that film.
Pushed harder against who? Themselves?

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A ten-year gap between RETURN OF THE JEDI and THE PHANTOM MENACE.
Sixteen.
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Old November 29 2012, 06:23 AM   #199
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Warner Brothers has said that if the 2006 Superman Returns had made half a billion dollars they would've pushed harder for a sequel to that film.
Pushed harder against who? Themselves?

Greg Cox wrote:
A ten-year gap between RETURN OF THE JEDI and THE PHANTOM MENACE.
Sixteen.
WB invested $260 million in Superman Returns and it only made $379 million worldwide. That didn't inspire much confidence in TPTB. To be fair Batman Begins made less with a smaller budget but they "TPTB'' believed it could do more. So Batman got a sequel. While the Superman writing, directing and production team (the same team that worked on X-Men and X2, all quitely abandoned any potential sequel to Superman Returns. Bryan Singer's Superman failed to inspire and didn't "position" the character the way WB had hoped.

Now they've hired Zak Snyder an action film guy who was did great work in 3 of his adaptions 300, Dawn Of the Dead 2004, and Watchmen to reboot Superman. On a $175 million dollar budget.

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Old November 29 2012, 09:21 AM   #200
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with such a large ensemble cast only tied up for 3 movies I'd be very surprised if we don't get 3 movies with the big 7. After that, nobody should hold their breath waiting for a fourth.
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Old November 29 2012, 02:16 PM   #201
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I didn't bring up Avatar for Saldana because it also was released in 2009. December 18th to be exact. By the time Star Trek 09 was in theaters, Avatar was in post-production. Her contributions had already been added before ST09 debuted.
I'm not seeing your point? The audience already had seen Trek '09 when Avatar premiered, so, they could decide to see the movie or not knowing "Uhura" was in it. Are you saying if Avatar was made a little later they would've chosen someone else to play Zoe Saldana's part?

And what about Kirk's daddy Chris Hemsworth? He went to star in Thor, and in Avengers. Was his part in Trek '09 too small for his future career to be doomed? Additionally, a Horror movie (Cabin in the Woods) Chris Hemsworth made before any of those was released after Star Trek and Thor that doubled it's budget in Box Office, likely helped by Chris Hemsworth's roles in Trek '09 and Thor
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Old November 29 2012, 08:32 PM   #202
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Old November 29 2012, 11:15 PM   #203
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I didn't bring up Avatar for Saldana because it also was released in 2009. December 18th to be exact. By the time Star Trek 09 was in theaters, Avatar was in post-production. Her contributions had already been added before ST09 debuted.
I'm not seeing your point? The audience already had seen Trek '09 when Avatar premiered, so, they could decide to see the movie or not knowing "Uhura" was in it. Are you saying if Avatar was made a little later they would've chosen someone else to play Zoe Saldana's part?
I'm saying that ST09 and Avatar were released in the same year therefore filming and production of both movies likely occurred at the same time. James Cameron couldn't have not chosen Saldana for his movie because at the time ST09 wasn't released. ST09 was Saldana's breakout role in to the mainstream. Most people recognize her from her small part in POC: Curse of the Black Pearl and playing a lesbian opposite Mila Kunis in After Sex, but was pretty much an unknown at that part. ST09 hits in may of 2009 and everybody identifies her as Uhura. December of the same year Avatar is released in theatres. Another big blockbuster which furthered her notoriety. Two big movies, two break out roles in the same year independent of eachother. Saldana's work in ST09 didn't land her the job on Avatar. No,filming for Avatar was already completed before ST09's release.
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And what about Kirk's daddy Chris Hemsworth? He went to star in Thor, and in Avengers. Was his part in Trek '09 too small for his future career to be doomed? Additionally, a Horror movie (Cabin in the Woods) Chris Hemsworth made before any of those was released after Star Trek and Thor that doubled it's budget in Box Office, likely helped by Chris Hemsworth's roles in Trek '09 and Thor
I never said anything about doomed careers and yes Chris Hemsworth's role in ST09 was small. Dying in the first 5 minutes in all. What i was saying is as actors the cast of the new Star Trek films probably don't want to hang around for the once in 4 year Star Trek movie. Yes their guaranteed successes but they want to be known for more than playing these iconic characters. It's just that ST09 didn't skyrocket them all in to super stardom and movies since that ST09's release have been hit and miss for the cast.
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Old November 30 2012, 08:45 AM   #204
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Since Quinto was so excited about playing Spock in the first place (IIRC he said he was born to play Spock and lobbied heavily to get the role), I don't see him giving it up.
I think it's more likely that any hint of his quitting is just a negotiating tactic for a raise. He seemed way too excited about landing the role to ever give it up. Especially since he seems to have no trouble getting other work in between films.
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Quinto qonfirms he'll be back for Star Trek XIII:
http://trekweb.com/articles/2012/12/...re-Movie.shtml


"Of course I wouldn't leave," he said. "I've had an incredible experience working with J.J. and that ensemble of wonderful actors, who are now wonderful friends. I would never willingly walk away from that." Asked how many more "Star Trek" films he's obligated to be a part of, the actor responded, "Just one more. Just one more."
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