Braga: "Archer was supposed to be Future Guy"

[Melakon]

I never said they were good.

[Gaith]

M wrote:

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Certainly sounds like a valid idea, though, don't you think? Well, it certainly would have been better than nothing.

Not better than no TCW at all, it ain't.

[E-DUB]

Captain Robau was future guy..................and he didn't need a time machine.

[st.barthgirl]

Funny~ i always thought 'future guy' was a woman.

From watching the series- not because of casting or novels...

[Guy Gardener]

old Archer is interesting, but what if it was young Archer from the pilot, annoyed by how his future turned out.

Archer was supposed to die in season one, so there can't have been an old Archer until after he saved himself even though he didn't exist enough to save himself.

[RAMA]

No way!

[teacake]

When was Archer supposed to die in Season One? Who was going to be the Captain?

It should have been Erika. ERIKA.

[R. Star]

Captain T'Po'ls Boobs. The pips would be very suggestively placed.

[Dukhat]

So if Archer was supposed to be Future Guy, why did Braga wait seven years after the show had been cancelled to reveal this? Was it some super secret that he was under contract not to reveal?

[Guy Gardener]

teacake wrote:

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When was Archer supposed to die in Season One? Who was going to be the Captain?

It should have been Erika. ERIKA.

Cold Front s01e11.

According to Daniels, Enterprise was supposed to explode in a an accident in the episode and every one dies. Enterprise plays no part in forging the federation in the original timeline and Archer plays no part in forging the Federation in the original time line either.

Future guy positions the Silik, leader of the Xindi, to stop the first warp 5 engine from blowing up after it reacted badly to a local stellar anomaly spoofing.

Future Guy saved Archer.

This pissed off Daniels.

After Daniels got his end around and stopped the Xindi threat from continuing to save Enterprise from its predetermined expiration which was fucking up Captain Daniel's timeline, he would have rolled back time and destroyed Enterprise... Unfortunately Silik, or the crazy events of that day, topped Daniels before he could save the future from this impossible meddling kicking his 31st century homeland off kilter.

Archer was so stupid that he decided to help Daniels rather than Silik because he was massively pig ignorant about who his friends were and who his enemies were not.

(The later appearances of Daniels, was a different guy who came from a timeline where Enterprise was not done blown up.)

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I suppose it's possible that old Archer could exist as a potential life form in the future if time was forced upside down inside temporal forcefields that are resistant to changes in the timeline, where he became more real after he shielded himself and then became furiously aware as to how nearly impossible his existence was given the facts of the most dominating histories running up and down the universe and Old Archer would have had no choice but to open a front in the temporal cold war to ensure his existence!

[Admiral Buzzkill]

I couldn't make any of that out.

[Melakon]

One thing that always bothered me about Enterprise-- there were several races we never heard of before (Suliban, the Xindi races) and events that were never heard about again in the chronological timeline of the later (earlier) series. Was this ever explained?

One thing I did like was references to races/systems that would later be destroyed (Malurians).

[Harvey]

Melakon wrote:

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One thing that always bothered me about Enterprise-- there were several races we never heard of before (Suliban, the Xindi races) and events that were never heard about again in the chronological timeline of the later (earlier) series. Was this ever explained?

I'm not so sure it needs an explanation. Space is big. Given that, I think Enterprise had a healthy dose of familiar elements mixed in with the unfamiliar.

[sonak]

this is just Braga pulling stuff from his butt. It is very clear from the direction that the TCW went in the series that Braga was just making stuff up about it as he went along, even before the big revelation that they had no idea who "future guy" was supposed to be.

The TCW COULD have been a good storyline had it not been so poorly thought out.

[teacake]

Guy Gardener wrote:

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Cold Front s01e11.

According to Daniels, Enterprise was supposed to explode in a an accident in the episode and every one dies. Enterprise plays no part in forging the federation in the original timeline and Archer plays no part in forging the Federation in the original time line either.

Oh right, I'm thinking you meant it was in Braga's original oft-fumbled plans for the series.

Voyager was supposed to explode in some timeline's accident as well.