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Old November 27 2012, 04:48 PM   #31
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Re: New Frontier?

Indeed. After the events of the first few NF books, Calhoun brought up a few of Kirk's adventures to remind Admiral Jellico just how loony Star Trekking can be.
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Old November 27 2012, 05:15 PM   #32
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He even lived one of them in Gods Above.

man I love new frontier
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Old November 27 2012, 06:05 PM   #33
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It's not on the schedule yet, and assuming that The Fall runs five months in a row, there isn't really any room for it.
Not necessarily - a new NF book hasn't been put out as a MMPB for a very long time. Everything from Stone and Anvil onwards has been hardback or trade, so it wouldn't impact on the MMPB schedule.

That said, I'm not optimistic at all.
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Old November 27 2012, 06:09 PM   #34
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See, now I was going to say that NF has gotten incredibly dark over the years.
But that's what I love about PAD's writing, is his ability to both make me laugh and cringe from horror in the same book.
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Old November 27 2012, 06:14 PM   #35
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It's not on the schedule yet, and assuming that The Fall runs five months in a row, there isn't really any room for it.
Not necessarily - a new NF book hasn't been put out as a MMPB for a very long time. Everything from Stone and Anvil onwards has been hardback or trade, so it wouldn't impact on the MMPB schedule.

That said, I'm not optimistic at all.
Good point, I totally forgot that Trade Paperbacks are outside the normal schedule. I was thinking that since Pocket was taking so long to decide, they must feel that NF isn't "worthy" of Trade Paperback status anymore and therefore the next release would be a MMPB. But that was just me getting wrapped up in my own assumptions, so I appreciate the wake-up call!
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Old November 28 2012, 03:15 AM   #36
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especially since the books seem (to me at least) to be going back the Richard Arnold days.
How? During the tightest of Richard's tenure (and he was only there from 1986-91) there was no interconnectivity between novels at all. He probably would have fought hard to discourage families for the Picards and the Rikers, the return of Arex and M'Ress to "New Frontier", promotions/changes for Dax, Sisko, Ro and Kira, and the death and resurrection of Janeway. I don't understand what "going back" you are talking about.
By the fact that Janeway is alive again and a recent event in the new Mack trilogy giving the impression that the reset button is still in effect.

Mot to mention that I'm worried that the next multiple book series might be getting rid of the Typhon Pact since its called The Fall.
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Old November 28 2012, 11:54 AM   #37
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There's a difference between a story arc concluding (i.e. Captain Eden on Voyager, the Federation/Typhon Pact conflict) and a reset button being pressed (sweeping IFM under the rug). Even Data isn't the same guy as before. He certainly isn't going back to the Ops station.
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Old November 29 2012, 07:17 AM   #38
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^Yeah, from pretty much everything I've heard here (I haven't read the CE books or TED yet), the Janeway event and the event in the first CE book wouldn't really be resets. What happened before still happened, it was just undone kind of. As far as I'm concerned as long as said events still happened and continue to impact the story, it's not a reset.
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Old November 29 2012, 01:00 PM   #39
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By the fact that Janeway is alive again and a recent event in the new Mack trilogy giving the impression that the reset button is still in effect.
That is the nature of tie-ins.

In the Arnold era, the sandbox was expected to be fully restored by the end of each book.

I can't see the current novels resetting the Riker and Picard babies, nor Captain Dax. If the Typhon Pact "falls" in "The Fall", that won't necessarily be an Arnold-type reset either, just the next arc in an ongoing saga.
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Old November 29 2012, 01:50 PM   #40
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If the Typhon Pact "falls" in "The Fall", that won't necessarily be an Arnold-type reset either, just the next arc in an ongoing saga.
Might not be the Typhon Pact. Could be another political union or federation of some sort...
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Old November 29 2012, 01:59 PM   #41
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Might not be the Typhon Pact. Could be another political union or federation of some sort...
Or the Picard-Crusher baby taking its first steps.
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Old November 29 2012, 02:46 PM   #42
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Might not be the Typhon Pact. Could be another political union or federation of some sort...
Or the Picard-Crusher baby taking its first steps.
Star Trek : The Tumble - hmmm
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Old November 30 2012, 03:16 PM   #43
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^Yeah, from pretty much everything I've heard here (I haven't read the CE books or TED yet), the Janeway event and the event in the first CE book wouldn't really be resets. What happened before still happened, it was just undone kind of. As far as I'm concerned as long as said events still happened and continue to impact the story, it's not a reset.
I don't think a "reset button" ever meant that those major events now didn't even happen. It just means that whatever status quo change occurred got unchanged back to how it was originally.

So say Data is made the Chief Veterinary Officer of the Enterprise in an episode of TNG. The reset button would be him getting fired for accidentally killing one of Spot's kittens and made 2nd Officer again. It doesn't mean that history was erased and his time as CVO never happened. It just means that the old status quo is restored.
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Old December 7 2012, 03:07 AM   #44
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Might not be the Typhon Pact. Could be another political union or federation of some sort...
Or the Picard-Crusher baby taking its first steps.
TNG from the point of view of all the children.
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Old January 8 2013, 05:42 PM   #45
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I asked PAD about this twice in the last 2 years on FB. Each time he said that he's approached Pocketbooks, but has not heard back. In fact his last response indicated people at Pocketbooks have said they've been in discussions with PAD about NF, but he said that that is not correct.
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