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Old November 26 2012, 08:54 PM   #181
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Re: Firefly first-time/rewatch (NO SPOILERS, please)

This isn't a criticism of Firefly or Mal in particular, since this happens in real life as well. Malcom Reynolds makes not bones about his hating all the rules and regulations of the Alliance and civilized society. He's quite clear in "Shindig" that it was society's rules and regulations that got him in the mess.

Now, here's the irony of Mal's point of view. He enforces the rules on his ship and gets quite intolerant of Jane and Jane's bucking of Mal's rules.

This is indicative of life in general. Everyone wants to make their own rules and they thend to chafe under the "oppression" of whatever superior authority they are bucking. Yet rules and regulations are a necessary part of society, and even these "rebels" want to impose some form of rules and regulations over others.
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Old November 27 2012, 01:22 AM   #182
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I loved River's face during their EVA while hiding from the feds.
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Old November 27 2012, 01:24 AM   #183
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This isn't a criticism of Firefly or Mal in particular, since this happens in real life as well. Malcom Reynolds makes not bones about his hating all the rules and regulations of the Alliance and civilized society. He's quite clear in "Shindig" that it was society's rules and regulations that got him in the mess.

Now, here's the irony of Mal's point of view. He enforces the rules on his ship and gets quite intolerant of Jane and Jane's bucking of Mal's rules.

This is indicative of life in general. Everyone wants to make their own rules and they thend to chafe under the "oppression" of whatever superior authority they are bucking. Yet rules and regulations are a necessary part of society, and even these "rebels" want to impose some form of rules and regulations over others.
All good points, and I'm thinking there aren't too many examples of a healthy democracy in Mal's life to look for other ways of doing things.
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Old November 27 2012, 08:31 PM   #184
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This isn't a criticism of Firefly or Mal in particular, since this happens in real life as well. Malcom Reynolds makes not bones about his hating all the rules and regulations of the Alliance and civilized society. He's quite clear in "Shindig" that it was society's rules and regulations that got him in the mess.

Now, here's the irony of Mal's point of view. He enforces the rules on his ship and gets quite intolerant of Jane and Jane's bucking of Mal's rules.

This is indicative of life in general. Everyone wants to make their own rules and they thend to chafe under the "oppression" of whatever superior authority they are bucking. Yet rules and regulations are a necessary part of society, and even these "rebels" want to impose some form of rules and regulations over others.
All good points, and I'm thinking there aren't too many examples of a healthy democracy in Mal's life to look for other ways of doing things.
There has to be a chain of command ...
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Old November 27 2012, 08:51 PM   #185
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This isn't a criticism of Firefly or Mal in particular, since this happens in real life as well. Malcom Reynolds makes not bones about his hating all the rules and regulations of the Alliance and civilized society. He's quite clear in "Shindig" that it was society's rules and regulations that got him in the mess.

Now, here's the irony of Mal's point of view. He enforces the rules on his ship and gets quite intolerant of Jane and Jane's bucking of Mal's rules.

This is indicative of life in general. Everyone wants to make their own rules and they thend to chafe under the "oppression" of whatever superior authority they are bucking. Yet rules and regulations are a necessary part of society, and even these "rebels" want to impose some form of rules and regulations over others.
All good points, and I'm thinking there aren't too many examples of a healthy democracy in Mal's life to look for other ways of doing things.
There has to be a chain of command ...
And we all know what the chain of command is.
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Old November 28 2012, 11:44 AM   #186
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Jaynisms, otherwise knows as every time Jayne opens his mouth.
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Old November 30 2012, 12:22 AM   #187
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EP 3 - BUSHWHACKED

SciFi 101: Don't go in the abandoned spaceship. Bad things will happen.
I like that Whedon never showed the Reavers in pilot and wondered when they'd make a reappearance. Seems like he's still going for slow tease as only real hint we get here is they have a fetish for facial piercings. Ouch. I did wonder as well what 'Western' trope the Reavers are meant to be: loco injuns? Donner Passers? mutant hillbillies? It's nice that we get a little more of crew development with each ep; there's a bit more chemistry between Mal and Inara; Savant sister seems to have some sort of psi ability; and Kaylee finally starts to shine. The interrogation montage (with nice guest spot by Alliance commander) was highlight of episode. My one wtf moment was realising for first time Wash and Zoe were married. That had obviously skipped me.
I like how the Reavers were handled, and you get the full story about them when you get the the Serenity Movie at the end. Joss did a great job there. The tease worked. This is a nice episode, but it's probably my least favorite of the bunch. I liked how this episode handles the intrigue and horror that the Reavers incite simultaneously.
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Old November 30 2012, 04:56 AM   #188
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I liked the touch of the wind blowing through River's hair when she boards the colony ship. Spaceships will probably have different internal pressures, even if it's just a few millibars.
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Old November 30 2012, 07:05 AM   #189
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I like the horror of being the girl who looks up.
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Old December 1 2012, 08:43 PM   #190
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EP 4 - SHINDIG


Fave ep so far. Barfight. Duel. A Southern belle ball. "Captain Tightpants". Kaylee in pink frou-frou. Oh, and Duncan Idaho. What's not to love? I had a good feeling when I saw Jane Espenson was writer. I hope she does some more. Mal and Inara developing nicely, but he definitely has some issues that need attending.
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Old December 1 2012, 09:48 PM   #191
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[Groucho] We must defend this woman' honor - which is more than SHE ever did! [/Groucho]
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Old December 1 2012, 11:27 PM   #192
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Oooo I thought you would like Shindig lurok!! And now that you've reviewed it I get to watch the next one, yay!!

Shindig: One of my favorite Firefly lines was this sign. I have a blog somewhere called Ballfailure and a warcraft character called Ballfailure.



Mark Shepard is fabulous in Firefly!! His peacock brooch cracks me up.



And another thing that cracks me up every time is the names of the snooty girls at the party: Cabott, Dester and Banning. The most perfect names



I loved Kaylee finding her own element at this do, talking engines with the boys.



Good character development episode, Mal does have issues for sure. But he should have issues to have come from the life he did and to have chosen the life he has.

I think this screenshot perfectly captures Kaylee's character And I love the street scenes on Persephone, so colorful.

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Old December 2 2012, 05:41 PM   #193
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And you were right I really liked the street scene in this one as well, and felt very BSG. In fact, with Shepard and Espenson as well there was a whole BSG vibe going on and I kept wondering if Larry Drake would have been good as the crime boss in Black Market. (no offence to Bill Duke, who I like).

oh, and this was great...
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Old December 3 2012, 03:00 PM   #194
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Best scene in this episode, IMO. I laugh every time.

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Old December 4 2012, 08:48 AM   #195
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When I first saw that scene I was it was so damn cocky!

The first time I watched Firefly I got to the end and was very sad.. a few months later I saw some stills from Shindig online and I was.. hang on, what is this? I had somehow missed it!!

That was a very special present, getting not only a brand new Firefly ep but one of the best ones.
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