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Old November 23 2012, 04:09 AM   #166
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Re: Firefly first-time/rewatch (NO SPOILERS, please)

Something to be noted... Whedon originally envisioned the character played by someone older, but Nathan's audition was so good he felt that he'd found their Mal.
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Old November 24 2012, 03:08 PM   #167
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EP 3 - BUSHWHACKED

SciFi 101: Don't go in the abandoned spaceship. Bad things will happen.
I like that Whedon never showed the Reavers in pilot and wondered when they'd make a reappearance. Seems like he's still going for slow tease as only real hint we get here is they have a fetish for facial piercings. Ouch. I did wonder as well what 'Western' trope the Reavers are meant to be: loco injuns? Donner Passers? mutant hillbillies? It's nice that we get a little more of crew development with each ep; there's a bit more chemistry between Mal and Inara; Savant sister seems to have some sort of psi ability; and Kaylee finally starts to shine. The interrogation montage (with nice guest spot by Alliance commander) was highlight of episode. My one wtf moment was realising for first time Wash and Zoe were married. That had obviously skipped me.
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Old November 24 2012, 04:36 PM   #168
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Old November 24 2012, 04:52 PM   #169
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Old November 25 2012, 12:08 AM   #170
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Bushwhacked: A perfect piece of space fantasy. We learn more about those our heroes are up against (Alliance and Reavers) and more about our heroes themselves. Kaylee has a Scotty moment. Jayne is impressively stupid but impressively clever about self preservation. The Doctor steps up and despite being teased relentlessly does well.

Book seriously shits me in this episode, as he frequently does. You don't get to be people's conscience without their consent preacher.

But best of all.. "have you ever been with a warrior woman?"



And now here's some pictures of prettiness.





(so much lovely chutzpah..)

My kitchen fetish continues.. the cupboards!



And Jayne's tattoo which is apparently of a koi dragon:



Here's a link to a replica tatt of it:

http://cabridges.com/2008/06/22/abou...-jayne-tattoo/

lurok LOL on the " Don't go in the abandoned spaceship. Bad things will happen." And yet they always do don't they.
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Old November 25 2012, 01:34 AM   #171
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Just to remind folk, NO SPOILERS!!!!!

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I did wonder as well what 'Western' trope the Reavers are meant to be: loco injuns? Donner Passers? mutant hillbillies?
I'm not sure if the whole show is supposed to be Western tropes? As in, everything has a tie in?
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Old November 25 2012, 03:07 AM   #172
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Mal's awkwardness with women and Inara in particular never really bothered me, because I can see why it might have developed based on his (presumptive) background, what we know he spent a lot of his life doing, and Inara's background. I'm enjoying reading people's responses to the show.

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ETA: Doesn't Baldwin use the 'I was aiming for his head' gag. I'm sure I've heard that before, but did Whedon originate it?
If you're a Castle watcher (and if you're not, why not?! As much as I adore Firefly I wouldn't trade Castle for more of it), you might be remembering it from an early episode when Castle says that line. It's possibly (probably?) one of the several Firefly references in Castle.
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Old November 25 2012, 03:12 AM   #173
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My favourite was when Castle dresses up as Mal for Halloween.
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Old November 25 2012, 03:15 AM   #174
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And of course Alexis' reaction:

"Didn't you wear that five years ago?"

"I like it."

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Old November 25 2012, 12:21 PM   #175
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I'm thinking lurok is going to like the next one.

I'm knowing I am going to like the next one
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Old November 26 2012, 02:31 AM   #176
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I'm thinking lurok is going to like the next one.

I'm knowing I am going to like the next one
Shindig is one of my favorites.

And LOL at "Have you ever been with a warrior woman?!"
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Old November 26 2012, 04:18 PM   #177
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You know, I can't really think of a "bad" Firefly episode. It gets kinda redundant to say "another good episode," I really like the first 4 episodes, with 5 being my least favorite of the bunch.

Bushwacked really carries 2 of the overall arcs of the series. We catch a big glimpse of River and the start of her abilities. This will continue to grow and be teased out for us over most of the series, culminating int he Serenity movie.



I think the Reavers are meant to only be vaguely reminiscent of the wild injun trope from old westerns. They are actually much more (or much less) than that. Yes, they appear to be mindless savages but we'll eventually see a bigger point for them.

I loved River's face during their EVA while hiding from the feds.

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Old November 26 2012, 05:42 PM   #178
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ETA: Doesn't Baldwin use the 'I was aiming for his head' gag. I'm sure I've heard that before, but did Whedon originate it?
Whedon didn't originate the line, because the whole joke - and variations of it - has been used for quite awhile:
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Old November 26 2012, 05:49 PM   #179
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Thanks, Neroon. Didn't realise it was that old and widespread a trope. Interesting though that exact same line used in Blake's 7 according to that site. I'm still curious if Whedon ever saw that series.
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Old November 26 2012, 07:18 PM   #180
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I always remember it from The Magnificent Seven first and foremost.

Probably the WORST ever example is Jar-Jar wiping out legions of droid troops accidentally.
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