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Old November 23 2012, 07:37 AM   #61
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Re: Rank the Bond actors

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"With pleasure" is 007's version of "My friends, we've come home." That may be a bad omen for the next film.
I agree that that's the sentiment expressed, but why do you call that a "bad omen"? Because Trek V was an underperformer (arguably because the final product wasn't what it should have been), or because you are a fan of the "harsh and gritty " Bond we've had the last couple of films?
Because TFF was a disappointment.
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Old November 23 2012, 07:47 AM   #62
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Re: Rank the Bond actors

Connery
Craig
Brosnan
Dalton
Moore
Lazenby

Didn't care for Skyfall, but Craig is almost as cool Connery in the role. Like approaching light speed, however, I don't think Craig will ever be able to surpass Connery. The closer he gets, the more impossible the task becomes. Top Tier Bonds.

I love Brosnan's Bond (and his movies, except for Tomorrow Never Dies), and Dalton's brutal assassin was sweet, so they're Tier 2.

Moore is eye-rolling, but genuinely amusing at times. Still, kind of meh for the most part. Lazenby is just some guy in some movie where he's supposed to be Bond, but it's just bad. They're Tier 3.
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Old November 23 2012, 08:10 AM   #63
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I agree that that's the sentiment expressed, but why do you call that a "bad omen"? Because Trek V was an underperformer (arguably because the final product wasn't what it should have been), or because you are a fan of the "harsh and gritty " Bond we've had the last couple of films?
Because TFF was a disappointment.
Fair enough, and I fully acknowledge that they will have to make a good movie either way. I'm not arguing that the return to the "classic Bond style" in and of itself guarantees a good movie, but for those of us who were turned off by the overly harsh and gritty portrayal of the past two films it's a step in the right direction.
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Old November 23 2012, 09:48 AM   #64
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Halle Berry has an Oscar...case closed...
Exactly. Using the Oscars as some sort of gold standard of acting ability is laughable, really.
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Old November 23 2012, 10:16 AM   #65
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^Depends. In general, Oscars go to worthy recipients. Most Oscar controversies surround who didn't get nominated, as opposed to saying that those who won were not worthy candidates.
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Old November 23 2012, 12:07 PM   #66
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Let's limit this to the Broccoli series – no Barry Nelson or David Niven. I'm asking your opinions of the actors, rather than the films in which they appear. Hence Lazenby ranks last on my list, despite OHMSS being one of the better films of the series.
1. Craig
2. Dalton
3. Connery
4. Brosnan
5. Moore
6. Lazenby
1 Sean Connery
2 Pierce Brosnan
3 Timothy Dalton
4 Roger Moore
5 George Lazenby
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Old November 23 2012, 01:51 PM   #67
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Old November 23 2012, 03:32 PM   #68
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"With pleasure" is 007's version of "My friends, we've come home." That may be a bad omen for the next film.
I agree that that's the sentiment expressed, but why do you call that a "bad omen"? Because Trek V was an underperformer (arguably because the final product wasn't what it should have been), or because you are a fan of the "harsh and gritty " Bond we've had the last couple of films?
Because TFF was a disappointment.
What on earth has the final line in a 23 year-old Star Trek movie got to do with the final line in this year's Bond movie? Different studio, different cast, different creative team. There is absolutely nothing in common here.
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Old November 23 2012, 05:04 PM   #69
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Roger Moore
Timothy Dalton
Sean Connery
Daniel Craig
George Lazenby
Pierce Brosnan
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Old November 23 2012, 05:40 PM   #70
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I agree that that's the sentiment expressed, but why do you call that a "bad omen"? *snip for space*
Because TFF was a disappointment.
What on earth has the final line in a 23 year-old Star Trek movie got to do with the final line in this year's Bond movie? Different studio, different cast, different creative team. There is absolutely nothing in common here.
What captrek is getting at is that thematically in the film, and emotionally for the audience, the "With pleasure" scene and "We've come home" resonate similarly. It is the filmmaker saying to the audience that we've been through the fire (proverbially) and now we've rebuilt and restored what was lost.
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Old November 23 2012, 06:08 PM   #71
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^I get that but it's a bit of a stretch to put it mildly.

You may as well say that Into Darkness is going to be a disappointment because Quantum of Solace, the second in that series of movies, was a disappointment.
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Old November 23 2012, 08:23 PM   #72
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It was tongue-in-cheek, Captain.
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Old November 23 2012, 09:57 PM   #73
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^I get that but it's a bit of a stretch to put it mildly.

You may as well say that Into Darkness is going to be a disappointment because Quantum of Solace, the second in that series of movies, was a disappointment.
Thematically it's not that much of a stretch, but I do agree that predicting the next Bond to be a dud just because ST V was is.

But it's not that important, as captrek wasn't being all that serious (see above).
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Old November 23 2012, 10:49 PM   #74
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^The OP specifically said that Niven and Barry Nelson, who played 'Jimmy Bond' in the 1950s telemovie of Casino Royale, weren't included - he was keeping it to the official Eon series of movies.
Gotcha. Didn't see that...
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Old November 24 2012, 03:05 PM   #75
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That gif has Shorty (the blonde guy on the left) stretched to twice his height!
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