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Old November 22 2012, 12:34 AM   #76
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Re: Brought to you by the letter "p" for "pedophilia"?

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Damn. Kevin Clash just resigned amid new allegations. I was really hoping it wasn't true.
We won't know if it's true or not until this thing goes through the courts, assuming these complaints have enough merit to make it that far. All we know is that Clash resigned (probably, forced out) because this is a big distraction Sesame Street doesn't need. Whether it is true or not, these allegations will likely be drawn out in the media for months to come, and he had to go.
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Old November 22 2012, 12:41 AM   #77
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Damn. Kevin Clash just resigned amid new allegations. I was really hoping it wasn't true.
We won't know if it's true or not until this thing goes through the courts, assuming these complaints have enough merit to make it that far. All we know is that Clash resigned (probably, forced out) because this is a big distraction Sesame Street doesn't need. Whether it is true or not, these allegations will likely be drawn out in the media for months to come, and he had to go.
$125,000 hush payments don't usually happen when the accuations are not true...


So, anyone think he used the Elmo voice while having sex with these kids?
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Old November 22 2012, 01:02 AM   #78
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Re: Brought to you by the letter "p" for "pedophilia"?

*cough*

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So he doesn't use his Elmo voice when he cums?
I'd also add "NINJA'D," but I don't think that counts when the other post was made three pages and eight days ago.
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Old November 22 2012, 01:08 AM   #79
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So, anyone think he used the Elmo voice while having sex with these kids?
Why does anyone care?
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Old November 22 2012, 02:45 AM   #80
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Just because the accuser took back the accusation doesn't mean it wasn't a true accusation. It just means he decided to take it back for whatever reason. I mean, if there was nothing questionable going on, there'd be nothing to validate the original accusation to begin with. He didn't say "No, he wasn't fiddling me when I was 16." He's saying "Yes, he was fiddling me when I was 16, but I was okay with it."

So I guess the moral of the story is: As long as you get them to say its okay (and hope they don't decide to lie about it later), you can fuck 16 year olds to your heart's content.
Or MAYBE, just MAYBE he didn't fuck a 16 year old. Because MAYBE it wasn't true, and the guy would be in a shit ton of trouble if it could be PROVED his accusation was a lie.

But, no, it can't be that. We couldn't possibly live in a world where people are innocent. It's just easier to think the worst of people.
NEVERTHELESS, I stand by what I said. As I wrote, I'm disappointed. I see nothing wrong with NOT rushing to judgement.
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Old November 22 2012, 02:55 AM   #81
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Re: Brought to you by the letter "p" for "pedophilia"?

Thank you Professor Zoom. I am very disappointed as well, but I still believe that rushing to judgement is horribly unfair.

It's sad that so many people are so cynical. Unfortunately the cynics are often right...but l hate that some people appear to be happy to be proven right.
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Old November 22 2012, 03:11 AM   #82
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I'd rather be cynical than naive. Considering the nature of the accusation and the way it was not-really-withdrawn, it was painfully clear that it was and is true.

Also, it's less 'happy' about being right and more 'happy' that a holier-than-thou type was proven wrong despite the aforementioned obviousness.
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Old November 22 2012, 03:55 PM   #83
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I'd rather be cynical than naive. Considering the nature of the accusation and the way it was not-really-withdrawn, it was painfully clear that it was and is true.
It's sad that you only see two choices: cynical or naive. Or does that make me naive to believe there are more two ways of being?


Also, it's less 'happy' about being right and more 'happy' that a holier-than-thou type was proven wrong despite the aforementioned obviousness.
Really? He is a "Holier Than Thou Type"? So, you've met him? You've watched a lot of interviews with him? Or is this just more of your "I'd rather be cynical" behavior? Or is ALL of the cast of Sesame Street a "Holier Than Thou Type?

Now that you mention it, Mr. Snuffaluggagus, he DOES get sorta preachy. Fuck that imaginary elephant.
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Old November 22 2012, 04:22 PM   #84
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Also, it's less 'happy' about being right and more 'happy' that a holier-than-thou type was proven wrong despite the aforementioned obviousness.
Really? He is a "Holier Than Thou Type"? So, you've met him? You've watched a lot of interviews with him? Or is this just more of your "I'd rather be cynical" behavior? Or is ALL of the cast of Sesame Street a "Holier Than Thou Type?

Now that you mention it, Mr. Snuffaluggagus, he DOES get sorta preachy. Fuck that imaginary elephant.
The fact that you're clueless enough to not realize that you're the holier-than-thou one I was referring to kind of makes my point for me.
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Old November 22 2012, 05:04 PM   #85
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Also, it's less 'happy' about being right and more 'happy' that a holier-than-thou type was proven wrong despite the aforementioned obviousness.
Really? He is a "Holier Than Thou Type"? So, you've met him? You've watched a lot of interviews with him? Or is this just more of your "I'd rather be cynical" behavior? Or is ALL of the cast of Sesame Street a "Holier Than Thou Type?

Now that you mention it, Mr. Snuffaluggagus, he DOES get sorta preachy. Fuck that imaginary elephant.
The fact that you're clueless enough to not realize that you're the holier-than-thou one I was referring to kind of makes my point for me.
Yeah. I'm the holier than thou one... M'kay.

It's sort of sad that you live in a world when someone suggests not rushing to judgement is a Holier Than Thou type.

Doh! I did it again! GRRR, why can't I stop being Holier Than Thou!!!

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Old November 22 2012, 05:11 PM   #86
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Here's an idea. Why don't we just ask the second guy suing Clash over the same charge what he thinks?
I dunno. Is he a lefty? Because we all know lefties can't be trusted. Maybe they are just trying to confound us with their evil Sesame Street socialist conspiracy.
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Old November 22 2012, 06:33 PM   #87
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It's sort of sad that you live in a world when someone suggests not rushing to judgement is a Holier Than Thou type.
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Or MAYBE, just MAYBE he didn't fuck a 16 year old. Because MAYBE it wasn't true, and the guy would be in a shit ton of trouble if it could be PROVED his accusation was a lie.

But, no, it can't be that. We couldn't possibly live in a world where people are innocent. It's just easier to think the worst of people.


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Maybe they are just trying to confound us with their evil Sesame Street socialist conspiracy.
Yeah, what a crazy conspiracy. It's not like the first victim was paid a 6-figure bribe to recant his allegations or anything.
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Old November 22 2012, 07:09 PM   #88
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Oh for the days of innocent until proven guilty.
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Old November 22 2012, 07:16 PM   #89
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That's an edict for law and punishment, not personal opinion.
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That's an edict for law and punishment, not personal opinion.
That's, like, your opinion, man.
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