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Old November 21 2012, 12:05 PM   #1
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Are there novels which bridge TOS and Trek 2009?

Pretty much what it says on the tin, whilst I would have preferred a new series, or film set in the primary universe, I have accepted what we have been given. As such, I would very much like to know if there is a novel out there which links 2009 to the TOS series? Perhaps explaining what Ambassador Spock was doing before the film starts. I think I remember hearing about a comic which might bridge the gap?
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Old November 21 2012, 12:07 PM   #2
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Re: Are there novels which bridge TOS and Trek 2009?

There's a comic series called Countdown. This is more a TNG/Abramsverse link, though; there's not a direct TOS/Abramsverse crossover (that I'm aware of).
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Old November 21 2012, 12:17 PM   #3
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Re: Are there novels which bridge TOS and Trek 2009?

I see, I much prefer novels, but I may have to check this comic out. How does this fit into the continued novel world? (I know the novels aren't strictly canon, I'm just not a fan of when other fictional work isn't taken into consideration).
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Old November 21 2012, 12:28 PM   #4
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Re: Are there novels which bridge TOS and Trek 2009?

The novels haven't reached that point yet in the timeline. (They're still a few in-universe years away.) They're free of course to ignore the comic, but they won't ignore the film itself.
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Old November 21 2012, 01:01 PM   #5
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Re: Are there novels which bridge TOS and Trek 2009?

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Pretty much what it says on the tin, whilst I would have preferred a new series, or film set in the primary universe,
The closest you're gonna get to that is the ongoing post-Nemesis novelverse.
I have accepted what we have been given. As such, I would very much like to know if there is a novel out there which links 2009 to the TOS series? Perhaps explaining what Ambassador Spock was doing before the film starts. I think I remember hearing about a comic which might bridge the gap?
There's The Needs of the Many, which is set in the Star Trek Online game continuity (and including Countdown in its backstory) and is set in the early 25th century - although it's more about what the TNG characters have been up to than Spock. It's incompatible with the prime novelverse, but hints easter egg-style that it exists as an alternate reality to it.

The prime novelverse has only mentioned the 2009 movie in passing references - like Uhura Prime also knowing an Orion at Starfleet Academy, or an Enterprise-E security officer having spent time on the icy Delta Vega. Typhon Pact: Rough Beasts of Empire seems to be beginning setting up Spock's role in the movie. The novelverse "present" is 2384, three years prior to the prime-universe events of the movie.
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Old November 21 2012, 01:13 PM   #6
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Re: Are there novels which bridge TOS and Trek 2009?

Great information there, thanks. Haven't gotten round to the Typhon Pact novels yet, but looking forward to it!
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Old November 21 2012, 07:02 PM   #7
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Re: Are there novels which bridge TOS and Trek 2009?

The Needs of the Many doesn't really fit in with traditional canon and ST09 except that it does speak of Spock's leaving and how Data was resurrected (which is different from relaunch continuity).

There are no books linking TOS or canon materials to ST09, the novel continuity hasn't gotten that far yet and since ST09 resets histroy at the time of Kirk being born, there won't be a link between the 2 time lines.

As to the comics, IDW didn't just write Countdown, there is Nero, and a continuous series where TOS episodes are reimagined in the Abrams timeline (which doesn't make sense to me since the years are different) and now there is a new series- Countdown to Darkness which is a prequel to the new film. Considering how much Countdown made sense of ST09, I would recommend picking up the new Countdown to Darkness since the movie may need it to make sense of things.
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Old November 21 2012, 07:07 PM   #8
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Re: Are there novels which bridge TOS and Trek 2009?

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...and a continuous series where TOS episodes are reimagined in the Abrams timeline (which doesn't make sense to me since the years are different)
I think the upcoming issue #15 is addressing that. Here's a preview:

http://trekmovie.com/2012/11/20/chec...trek-comic-15/

It seems they're going with the hypothesis that there's an infinite number of parallel timelines, so that any given combination of events is bound to happen in one of them.
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Old November 21 2012, 08:11 PM   #9
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Re: Are there novels which bridge TOS and Trek 2009?

Wrong Enterprise at warp!!!
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Old November 21 2012, 10:34 PM   #10
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Re: Are there novels which bridge TOS and Trek 2009?

AFAIK, there is no way for anyone in the Prime timeline to know that the Abramsverse even exists at all. From the point of view of characters in Countdown (and presumably Trek novels, if they include a scene like this, will do a similar thing), Nero and Spock Prime simply vanished without a trace and were never seen again, end of story. So unless there was a Mirror, Mirror - style crossover, I don't see how the two universes could link up.
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Old November 21 2012, 10:43 PM   #11
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^STO Dulmur knows. But everyone thinks he's crazy
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Old November 21 2012, 11:07 PM   #12
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Re: Are there novels which bridge TOS and Trek 2009?

^ Crap! I like those DTI guys. I hope the 'prime' versions don't turn out like that!
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Old November 22 2012, 12:32 AM   #13
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It would be good if these novels continued to after the point Romulus was destroyed. Would make a very interesting read.
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Old November 22 2012, 12:41 AM   #14
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Plus with the 2009 movie taking place around 2257 (for the main part, meaning Kirk apparently gets command years before his Prime version), the two universes have similar events at different years.
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Old November 22 2012, 01:27 AM   #15
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^Actually 2258, for the most part.
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