RSS iconTwitter iconFacebook icon

The Trek BBS title image

The Trek BBS statistics

Threads: 141,514
Posts: 5,511,622
Members: 25,137
Currently online: 551
Newest member: VonDingle

TrekToday headlines

Captain Kirk’s Boldest Missions
By: T'Bonz on Dec 25

Trek Paper Clips
By: T'Bonz on Dec 24

Sargent Passes
By: T'Bonz on Dec 23

QMx Trek Insignia Badges
By: T'Bonz on Dec 23

And The New Director Of Star Trek 3 Is…
By: T'Bonz on Dec 23

TV Alert: Pine On Tonight Show
By: T'Bonz on Dec 22

Retro Review: The Emperor’s New Cloak
By: Michelle on Dec 20

Star Trek Opera
By: T'Bonz on Dec 19

New Abrams Project
By: T'Bonz on Dec 18

IDW Publishing March 2015 Comics
By: T'Bonz on Dec 17


Welcome! The Trek BBS is the number one place to chat about Star Trek with like-minded fans. Please login to see our full range of forums as well as the ability to send and receive private messages, track your favourite topics and of course join in the discussions.

If you are a new visitor, join us for free. If you are an existing member please login below. Note: for members who joined under our old messageboard system, please login with your display name not your login name.


Go Back   The Trek BBS > Entertainment & Interests > TV & Media

TV & Media Non-Trek television, movies, books, music, etc.

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old November 21 2012, 01:41 PM   #61
the G-man
Commodore
 
the G-man's Avatar
 
Location: to your immediate right
Re: Brought to you by the letter "p" for "pedophilia"?

Has it? I read a study once that said [IIRC] 'Sesame Street,' with it quickly edited chaotic style, actually interfered with learning and created generatioins of kids who couldnt concentrate. IIRC, the study also said shows like 'Mr Rogers' were actually better for developing minds.
the G-man is offline   Reply With Quote
Old November 21 2012, 04:16 PM   #62
Savage Dragon
TheSeeker
 
Savage Dragon's Avatar
 
Location: New York, NY
Re: Brought to you by the letter "p" for "pedophilia"?

I grew up on Sesame street in the 70s and I have no problem concentrating.
__________________
Savage Dragon. Accept no substitutes.
Savage Dragon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old November 21 2012, 05:08 PM   #63
Gaith
Rear Admiral
 
Gaith's Avatar
 
Location: Washington, DC
Re: Brought to you by the letter "p" for "pedophilia"?

the G-man wrote: View Post
Has it? I read a study once that said [IIRC] 'Sesame Street,' with it quickly edited chaotic style, actually interfered with learning and created generatioins of kids who couldnt concentrate. IIRC, the study also said shows like 'Mr Rogers' were actually better for developing minds.
My mother let me watch Mr. Rogers but kept me off the Street for that very reason. Overprotection? Maybe, but I can't fault her reasoning.
Gaith is offline   Reply With Quote
Old November 21 2012, 05:22 PM   #64
Deckerd
Fleet Arse
 
Deckerd's Avatar
 
Location: the Frozen Wastes
Re: Brought to you by the letter "p" for "pedophilia"?

We didn't watch any US imports. Our idea of a treat was watching a beardy hippy with big specs standing in front of a diagram on Open University.
__________________
They couldn't hit an elephant at this distance.
Deckerd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old November 21 2012, 05:28 PM   #65
Data Holmes
Admiral
 
Data Holmes's Avatar
 
Location: Thank you for smoking!
Re: Brought to you by the letter "p" for "pedophilia"?

Dave Shapel: the truth about sesame street.

__________________
Nick Naylor: My job requires a certain... moral flexibility.
Data Holmes is offline   Reply With Quote
Old November 21 2012, 06:24 PM   #66
the G-man
Commodore
 
the G-man's Avatar
 
Location: to your immediate right
Re: Brought to you by the letter "p" for "pedophilia"?

TheSeeker wrote: View Post
I grew up on Sesame street in the 70s and I have no problem concentrating.
Congratulations. That makes you the exception that proves the rule.
the G-man is offline   Reply With Quote
Old November 21 2012, 06:49 PM   #67
BillJ
Admiral
 
BillJ's Avatar
 
Location: Covington, Ky.
View BillJ's Twitter Profile
Re: Brought to you by the letter "p" for "pedophilia"?

the G-man wrote: View Post
TheSeeker wrote: View Post
I grew up on Sesame street in the 70s and I have no problem concentrating.
Congratulations. That makes you the exception that proves the rule.
I don't have any issues with concentration and neither do my kids and we've all watched Sesame Street.
__________________
"...the most elementary and valuable statement in science, the beginning of wisdom, is I do not know." - Lt. Commander Data, "Where Silence Has Lease"
BillJ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old November 21 2012, 06:50 PM   #68
the G-man
Commodore
 
the G-man's Avatar
 
Location: to your immediate right
Re: Brought to you by the letter "p" for "pedophilia"?

Penn State Takes Down A Photo Of Elmo Being Given A PSU T-Shirt: Penn State University appeared to make private a photo on their Flickr feed Tuesday of Elmo receiving a Penn State T-shirt during a visit to the university in March.

Those guys at Penn State can't catch a break...
the G-man is offline   Reply With Quote
Old November 21 2012, 07:13 PM   #69
Mister Fandango
Fleet Captain
 
Mister Fandango's Avatar
 
Re: Brought to you by the letter "p" for "pedophilia"?

Professor Zoom wrote: View Post
Mister Fandango wrote: View Post
Just because the accuser took back the accusation doesn't mean it wasn't a true accusation. It just means he decided to take it back for whatever reason. I mean, if there was nothing questionable going on, there'd be nothing to validate the original accusation to begin with. He didn't say "No, he wasn't fiddling me when I was 16." He's saying "Yes, he was fiddling me when I was 16, but I was okay with it."

So I guess the moral of the story is: As long as you get them to say its okay (and hope they don't decide to lie about it later), you can fuck 16 year olds to your heart's content.
Or MAYBE, just MAYBE he didn't fuck a 16 year old. Because MAYBE it wasn't true, and the guy would be in a shit ton of trouble if it could be PROVED his accusation was a lie.

But, no, it can't be that. We couldn't possibly live in a world where people are innocent. It's just easier to think the worst of people.
Mister Fandango is offline   Reply With Quote
Old November 21 2012, 07:27 PM   #70
Admiral2
Vice Admiral
 
Admiral2's Avatar
 
Location: Arendelle
Re: Brought to you by the letter "p" for "pedophilia"?

Mister Fandango wrote: View Post
Professor Zoom wrote: View Post
Mister Fandango wrote: View Post
Just because the accuser took back the accusation doesn't mean it wasn't a true accusation. It just means he decided to take it back for whatever reason. I mean, if there was nothing questionable going on, there'd be nothing to validate the original accusation to begin with. He didn't say "No, he wasn't fiddling me when I was 16." He's saying "Yes, he was fiddling me when I was 16, but I was okay with it."

So I guess the moral of the story is: As long as you get them to say its okay (and hope they don't decide to lie about it later), you can fuck 16 year olds to your heart's content.
Or MAYBE, just MAYBE he didn't fuck a 16 year old. Because MAYBE it wasn't true, and the guy would be in a shit ton of trouble if it could be PROVED his accusation was a lie.

But, no, it can't be that. We couldn't possibly live in a world where people are innocent. It's just easier to think the worst of people.
Here's an idea. Why don't we just ask the second guy suing Clash over the same charge what he thinks?
__________________
"You should never give up on family -- even if they say harsh things and create snow monsters to make you go away."

-Elsa on what she learned from Anna
Admiral2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old November 21 2012, 07:45 PM   #71
Mister Fandango
Fleet Captain
 
Mister Fandango's Avatar
 
Re: Brought to you by the letter "p" for "pedophilia"?

That was kind of my point. I was the poster in the first quote. That was kind of a sardonic .
Mister Fandango is offline   Reply With Quote
Old November 21 2012, 08:10 PM   #72
George Bailey
The Revd's Oldman
 
George Bailey's Avatar
 
Location: Bob The Skutter
View George Bailey's Twitter Profile
Re: Brought to you by the letter "p" for "pedophilia"?

TheSeeker wrote: View Post
I grew up on Sesame street in the 70s and I have no problem concentrating.
Surely that should be "I grew up on Sesame street in the 70s and I have no problem... uh... What was I saying?"
__________________
You sit around here and you spin your little webs and you think the whole world revolves around you and your money. Well, it doesn't, Mr. Potter. In the whole vast configuration of things, I'd say you were nothing but a scurvy little spider!
George Bailey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old November 21 2012, 08:30 PM   #73
Admiral2
Vice Admiral
 
Admiral2's Avatar
 
Location: Arendelle
Re: Brought to you by the letter "p" for "pedophilia"?

Mister Fandango wrote: View Post
That was kind of my point. I was the poster in the first quote. That was kind of a sardonic .

Gotcha!
__________________
"You should never give up on family -- even if they say harsh things and create snow monsters to make you go away."

-Elsa on what she learned from Anna
Admiral2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old November 21 2012, 08:59 PM   #74
Data Holmes
Admiral
 
Data Holmes's Avatar
 
Location: Thank you for smoking!
Re: Brought to you by the letter "p" for "pedophilia"?

Admiral2 wrote: View Post
Mister Fandango wrote: View Post
Professor Zoom wrote: View Post

Or MAYBE, just MAYBE he didn't fuck a 16 year old. Because MAYBE it wasn't true, and the guy would be in a shit ton of trouble if it could be PROVED his accusation was a lie.

But, no, it can't be that. We couldn't possibly live in a world where people are innocent. It's just easier to think the worst of people.
Here's an idea. Why don't we just ask the second guy suing Clash over the same charge what he thinks?
Wasn't the second guy 15 when he had his sexual encounter with Elmo, and came foward because of the first guy who came forward?
__________________
Nick Naylor: My job requires a certain... moral flexibility.
Data Holmes is offline   Reply With Quote
Old November 21 2012, 10:18 PM   #75
Savage Dragon
TheSeeker
 
Savage Dragon's Avatar
 
Location: New York, NY
Re: Brought to you by the letter "p" for "pedophilia"?

Bob The Skutter wrote: View Post
TheSeeker wrote: View Post
I grew up on Sesame street in the 70s and I have no problem concentrating.
Surely that should be "I grew up on Sesame street in the 70s and I have no problem... uh... What was I saying?"
I was considering going that route, but in the end I decided that...

OOOH! a butterfly!
__________________
Savage Dragon. Accept no substitutes.
Savage Dragon is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Tags
elmo, kevin clash, muppets, sesame street

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump



All times are GMT +1. The time now is 06:17 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.6
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
FireFox 2+ or Internet Explorer 7+ highly recommended.