Most unjustly hated episode

JirinPanthosa · November 21 2012, 12:58 AM

My vote is "The Royale". I think it's one of the funniest episodes in the series.

Greg Cox · November 21 2012, 01:03 AM

I have a soft spot for "Catspaw," which gets maligned a lot. Hey, it's a special Halloween episode by the author of PSYCHO. What's not to love?

(I think people overlook that fact that the ep, which originally on October 27, 1967, was just intended to be a fun Halloween treat, and works perfectly well in that respect.)

Valin · November 21 2012, 01:06 AM

"Spock's Brain." for all it's campiness, it's still more entertaining than most of 1980's- 2000's Trek.

teacake · November 21 2012, 01:08 AM

Threshold. Three quarters of the way through a standard sci fi tech story the whole episode drops some acid. What's not to love?

MacLeod · November 21 2012, 01:08 AM

One of the things I remember about the Royale aside from it being a poor episode is it quoting a tempature lower than absolute zero.

Greg Cox · November 21 2012, 01:11 AM

teacake wrote:

Threshold. Three quarters of the way through a standard sci fi tech story the whole episode drops some acid. What's not to love?

I will grant that "Threshold," as goofy and nonsensical as it is, is actually more entertaining that plenty of dull, forgettable, middle-of-the-road type episodes. "Threshold" is jaw-droppingly insane--like a good episode of AMERICAN HORROR STORY.

Then again, I like the TNG ep where Barclay turns into a giant spider-monster, too.

6079SmithW · November 21 2012, 03:25 AM

"Masks". For some reason it gets a lot of hate around here. Maybe some think Bret Spiner was overacting? I don't know.

T'Girl · November 21 2012, 10:16 AM

JirinPanthosa wrote:

My vote is "The Royale". I think it's one of the funniest episodes in the series.

I love the way they lifted an scene out of Gene Roddenberry's movie/pilot "Questor," and inserted it into the middle of this episode.

lurok · November 21 2012, 12:40 PM

I don't much like TNG and can't bear Masks but The Royale reminded me a little of Spectre Of The Gun. I have a bizarre fondness for Spock's Brain and don't mind Move Along... and If Wishes... as much as many DS9 fans. I find many praised episodes are highly overrated.

Robert D. Robot · November 21 2012, 01:33 PM

T'Girl wrote:

JirinPanthosa wrote:

My vote is "The Royale". I think it's one of the funniest episodes in the series.

I love the way they lifted an scene out of Gene Roddenberry's movie/pilot "Questor," and inserted it into the middle of this episode.

Hi, T'Girl-- It has been a while since I have seen "Questor"... what scene are you referring to?

sonak · November 21 2012, 04:44 PM

my three have already been mentioned.

"masks," "the royale," and "threshold."

All are much better than unwatchable crap like "the fight," "spirit folk," "a night in sickbay," "the alternative factor," etc. etc.

Nerys Ghemor · November 21 2012, 06:01 PM

I agree about "Masks." It may be odd, but I definitely have a soft spot for it.

"Move Along Home" is another one that I constantly see trashed, but to me it's the good kind of campy, not the bad kind. And it's doubly ironic that the kind of people who flip out over this episode are exactly the kind of people that the Wadi are rolling their eyes at at the end, for taking everything with deadly seriousness.

The last one for me is "Descent." I was surprised to see how much hate this episode gets, when I joined this forum. It will always be a favorite of mine. (It also explains why I hate Seven of Nine. Seven's robot personality is completely contradicted by Hugh's character arc--there's no doubt Hugh is a highly emotional being...sometimes immature, but certainly not inhibited emotionally in any way.)

plynch · November 21 2012, 06:21 PM

Spectre of the Gun. I can't fathom why this episode is disliked. HAD they in fact gone to a "Western Planet" ("Archons" was close), like they went to a Nazi Planet, Gangster Planet, Rome PLanet, then yes, this would simply have been the "Western Planet" one.

But they spun straw into gold and made the super-cool, surreal, great character-acting, interesting premise, great soundtrack episode.

BillJ · November 21 2012, 07:14 PM

The Omega Glory. People get so wrapped up in the flag that they miss a great performance by Morgan Woodward and a compelling story.

Lonemagpie · November 21 2012, 07:18 PM

JirinPanthosa wrote:

My vote is "The Royale". I think it's one of the funniest episodes in the series.

Same here - though more for the reason that it has a real Sapphire & Steel vibe to me.

In TOS it'd be Spectre Of The Gun, which makes the fake looking sets into a cool part of the episode

November 21 2012, 12:58 AM	#1
JirinPanthosa Captain	Most unjustly hated episode My vote is "The Royale". I think it's one of the funniest episodes in the series.

November 21 2012, 01:03 AM	#2
Greg Cox Vice Admiral Location: Oxford, PA	Re: Most unjustly hated episode I have a soft spot for "Catspaw," which gets maligned a lot. Hey, it's a special Halloween episode by the author of PSYCHO. What's not to love? (I think people overlook that fact that the ep, which originally on October 27, 1967, was just intended to be a fun Halloween treat, and works perfectly well in that respect.) __________________ www.gregcox-author.com

November 21 2012, 01:06 AM	#3
Valin Rear Admiral Location: Helium, Barsoom	Re: Most unjustly hated episode "Spock's Brain." for all it's campiness, it's still more entertaining than most of 1980's- 2000's Trek. __________________ "Live long and prosper." -Abraham Lincoln to the train conductor at Gettysburg, PA Novemember 1863

November 21 2012, 01:08 AM	#4
teacake Admiral Location: Militant Janeway True Path Devotees Compound. With Sehlats.	Re: Most unjustly hated episode Threshold. Three quarters of the way through a standard sci fi tech story the whole episode drops some acid. What's not to love? __________________ Rider: I can't believe you'd kill me for a field of empty holes. J'onn: It's all I have. ■ ■ ■ Janeway does Melbourne

November 21 2012, 01:08 AM	#5
MacLeod Vice Admiral Location: Great Britain	Re: Most unjustly hated episode One of the things I remember about the Royale aside from it being a poor episode is it quoting a tempature lower than absolute zero. __________________ On the continent of wild endeavour in the mountains of solace and solitude there stood the citadel of the time lords, the oldest and most mighty race in the universe looking down on the galaxies below sworn never to interfere only to watch.

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November 21 2012, 03:25 AM	#7
6079SmithW Vice Admiral	Re: Most unjustly hated episode "Masks". For some reason it gets a lot of hate around here. Maybe some think Bret Spiner was overacting? I don't know. __________________ Sir Isaac Newton is the deadliest son-of-a-bitch in space.

November 21 2012, 12:40 PM	#9
lurok Commodore Location: Lost In The EU Expanse	Re: Most unjustly hated episode I don't much like TNG and can't bear Masks but The Royale reminded me a little of Spectre Of The Gun. I have a bizarre fondness for Spock's Brain and don't mind Move Along... and If Wishes... as much as many DS9 fans. I find many praised episodes are highly overrated. __________________ “Between ennui and ecstasy unwinds our whole experience of time.”

November 21 2012, 04:44 PM	#11
sonak Rear Admiral Location: in a figment of a mediocre mind's imagination	Re: Most unjustly hated episode my three have already been mentioned. "masks," "the royale," and "threshold." All are much better than unwatchable crap like "the fight," "spirit folk," "a night in sickbay," "the alternative factor," etc. etc.

November 21 2012, 06:01 PM	#12
Nerys Ghemor Vice Admiral Location: Cardăsa Terăm--Nerys Ghemor	Re: Most unjustly hated episode I agree about "Masks." It may be odd, but I definitely have a soft spot for it. "Move Along Home" is another one that I constantly see trashed, but to me it's the good kind of campy, not the bad kind. And it's doubly ironic that the kind of people who flip out over this episode are exactly the kind of people that the Wadi are rolling their eyes at at the end, for taking everything with deadly seriousness. The last one for me is "Descent." I was surprised to see how much hate this episode gets, when I joined this forum. It will always be a favorite of mine. (It also explains why I hate Seven of Nine. Seven's robot personality is completely contradicted by Hugh's character arc--there's no doubt Hugh is a highly emotional being...sometimes immature, but certainly not inhibited emotionally in any way.) __________________ Are you a Cardassian fan, citizen? Prove your loyalty--check out my fanfic universe, Star Trek: Sigils and Unions. Or keep the faith on my AU Cardassia, Sigils and Unions: Catacombs of Oralius!

November 21 2012, 06:21 PM	#13
plynch Fleet Captain Location: Outer Graceland	Re: Most unjustly hated episode Spectre of the Gun. I can't fathom why this episode is disliked. HAD they in fact gone to a "Western Planet" ("Archons" was close), like they went to a Nazi Planet, Gangster Planet, Rome PLanet, then yes, this would simply have been the "Western Planet" one. But they spun straw into gold and made the super-cool, surreal, great character-acting, interesting premise, great soundtrack episode. __________________ Author of Live Like Louis: Inspirational Stories from the Life of Louis Armstrong, http://livelikelouis.com.

November 21 2012, 07:14 PM	#14
BillJ Vice Admiral Location: Greater Cincinnati	Re: Most unjustly hated episode The Omega Glory. People get so wrapped up in the flag that they miss a great performance by Morgan Woodward and a compelling story. __________________ Boobies are evil!!!