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Old November 20 2012, 08:22 PM   #16
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Re: Remaking British shows for North American TV.

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I have heard they're also talking about remaking Misfits as well. Which seems entirely pointless as it's supposed to be a British take on the American myths of superheroes.
I'm sure there's more to the premise of Misfits than that. A one sentence description that is different than Alphas or Heroes. American remakes often use the original idea as a starting point. Like how the distinctively Israeli story of Prisoners of War, inspired by true events, became a thriller bears little resemblance to the original show.
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Old November 20 2012, 08:26 PM   #17
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^Erm, House of Cards had two follow up series. To Play the King and The Final Cut.
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Old November 20 2012, 08:41 PM   #18
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Not quite the same thing, but the Canadian show Being Erica is being remade into a British show, so it can work the other way too.
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Old November 20 2012, 08:45 PM   #19
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Is it? I had heard that but haven't heard anything beyond a quick little thing saying it was happening about a year ago.
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Old November 20 2012, 08:46 PM   #20
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Yes I'd heard about that remake, I believe it's to be set in Glasgow and title You Again.

But speaking in general terms, how often does a foriegn remake surpass the orginal.
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Old November 20 2012, 08:48 PM   #21
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It was called Earth 2. It lasted for about the same number of episodes.
Yeah, TV shows from any country are usually just some concept that somebody has done before. I don't even know why anyone bothers to purchase rights to a general concept for a TV premise.
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Old November 20 2012, 08:49 PM   #22
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Yes I'd heard about that remake, I believe it's to be set in Glasgow and title You Again.

But speaking in general terms, how often does a foriegn remake surpass the orginal.
I've just looked and the reference I saw was back in 2010. Seems unlikely it's getting made at this point.
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Old November 20 2012, 08:54 PM   #23
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I remember something about when the remake of Skins first aired there was talk of it being Child porn.

I have heard they're also talking about remaking Misfits as well. Which seems entirely pointless as it's supposed to be a British take on the American myths of superheroes.
Good example of why it's silly to purchase the rights to most shows, because they're just an iteration of some previous idea anyway.

Here's the reason they keep doing it anyway: corporate ass covering. If you can point to a teenage superhero mutant show working somewhere, then you have some cover if it fails, and most shows do fail.

So we can all expect this phenomenon to continue indefinitely, regardless of whether audiences want these shows or care that they are remakes of shows the audience is unlikely to have heard of in the first place. It's all about some guy protecting his career in a very dicey industry where one failure can be catastropic.

The remake phenomenon has been exaggerated anyway. I've been keeping track of broadcast and cable development just in the sf/f genre and the proportion of shows that are foreign remakes is very small compared with the huge number of shows that are in some stage of development at any given time, and most of which will never make it to production.
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Old November 20 2012, 09:00 PM   #24
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American remakes often use the original idea as a starting point. Like how the distinctively Israeli story of Prisoners of War, inspired by true events, became a thriller bears little resemblance to the original show.
Homeland hardly needs to be a remake of anything, since it's so obviously just 24, but with more cable values vs broadcast (ie, more focus on characters, less frantic need to keep audiences from changing the channel by throwing every crazy plot twist at us all the time.)
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Old November 20 2012, 09:16 PM   #25
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I would love to see North Americans remake Space Precinct. I loved the show especially the alien police captain with the Irish accent.

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Space 1999 was before my time but it looks interesting. Traveling on the moon that has been blasted into space.

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Two interesting British shows.
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Old November 20 2012, 09:20 PM   #26
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You can bet the Yanks will NEVER remake "New Tricks".

Americans are TERRIFIED of anybody over forty appearing on tv, let alone somebody over 65!!!
You mean like Psych, which co-stars the lead's father as a retired police officer who helps out on cases and even teamed up with two other even older retired detectives to solve a cold case, which is pretty much the same idea as the show above?

Or Cold Case, where half the main cast was in their forties with two of the detectives in their 60s?

Or Longmire, whose Australian lead actor Robert Taylor is 50?

Or CSI, where all three heads of the unit were in their fifties or older (as are leads Gary Sinise and David Caruso on the spinoffs), and 64 in Ted Danson's case.

The 900 Law & Order shows have several actors older than that.

Vegas has 58 year old Dennis Quaid as the lead sheriff and 49 year old Michael Chicklis as the main antoagonist.

The remake of Life on Mars featured then ~71 year old Harvey Keitel as Gene Hunt.

Lead agents Mandy Patinkin (in his mid-50s at the time) and currently Joe Mantegna (65) on Criminal Minds.

That's just a few (not all) of the crime-related shows that feature actors in the age ranges you say Americans are apparently all-caps terrified of seeing on TV, not even getting in to other genres.
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Old November 20 2012, 10:58 PM   #27
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Yes I'd heard about that remake, I believe it's to be set in Glasgow and title You Again.

But speaking in general terms, how often does a foriegn remake surpass the orginal.
I've just looked and the reference I saw was back in 2010. Seems unlikely it's getting made at this point.

Could be under secrecy, but who knows what to make of it. From what I heard, there wasn't going to be any therapists and that it was going to be a miniseries rather than a full-blown series.

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Old November 20 2012, 11:06 PM   #28
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Though I don't think we've had a West Wing remake, and it's a different genre, I wonder if WW had any influence, stylistic or otherwise, on The Thick Of It? (which I believe has been adapted or remade for US?)
There was talk of a U.S. version of The Thick of It, but it never came to fruition.

Armando Iannucci does have an HBO show called Veep, though.
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Old November 21 2012, 06:09 AM   #29
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Outcasts is a good show, but we've seen a similar plots on TV before, so I don't know if I'd want an American remake.

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I enjoyed Outcasts, but the show has no name value, and very little few original concepts. You could create a new show about a human colony on an alien world, play in your own sandbox, and save licensing fees. So there is no reason to remake the show. But I'd love if someone did create a similar show for the US and it lasted more than one season. Maybe SyFy will resurrect the Revolution pilot(before NBC used the name).
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Old November 21 2012, 06:27 AM   #30
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American remakes often use the original idea as a starting point. Like how the distinctively Israeli story of Prisoners of War, inspired by true events, became a thriller bears little resemblance to the original show.
Homeland hardly needs to be a remake of anything, since it's so obviously just 24, but with more cable values vs broadcast (ie, more focus on characters, less frantic need to keep audiences from changing the channel by throwing every crazy plot twist at us all the time.)
Have you seen Homeland? There are some crazy times going on, and it's much MUCH better than 24 ever was.
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