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Old November 19 2012, 05:51 PM   #61
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Indeed, the first Who companion to get a spin-off was a time traveler from the future. Although they did stick him in modern day.
I never knew Sara Jane was from the future!

Or a him.

Assuming you're not just being tongue in cheek, Torchwood premeiered before SJA. Therefore Jack was the first companion to have a spin-off.
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Old November 19 2012, 05:55 PM   #62
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Not departure - DEATH. Complete with tombstone. This was exactly what the Doctor feared most about Amy/Rory, what he'd abandoned them on Earth twice to prevent. That they went on to live out a full and happy life in America doesn't even register with him. He'll never see them again now, in any form.
Despite the fact that they only needed to catch a bus to anywhere outside New York and he could visit / pick them up easily...
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Old November 19 2012, 05:56 PM   #63
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Indeed, the first Who companion to get a spin-off was a time traveler from the future. Although they did stick him in modern day.
I never knew Sara Jane was from the future!

Or a him.

Assuming you're not just being tongue in cheek, Torchwood premeiered before SJA. Therefore Jack was the first companion to have a spin-off.
Psion is probably talking about the FIRST Sara Jane spinoff, that short one from about the 80s.
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Old November 19 2012, 06:00 PM   #64
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I never knew Sara Jane was from the future!

Or a him.

Assuming you're not just being tongue in cheek, Torchwood premeiered before SJA. Therefore Jack was the first companion to have a spin-off.
Psion is probably talking about the FIRST Sara Jane spinoff, that short one from about the 80s.
Which, if I recall correctly was actually about K-9, so that means the first companion to get their own spin-off is actually a robo-dog from the future.

Right, so, only mondern day companions can have any resonance with the audience?
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Old November 19 2012, 09:35 PM   #65
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I never knew Sara Jane was from the future!

Or a him.

Assuming you're not just being tongue in cheek, Torchwood premeiered before SJA. Therefore Jack was the first companion to have a spin-off.
Psion is probably talking about the FIRST Sara Jane spinoff, that short one from about the 80s.


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Assuming you're not just being tongue in cheek, Torchwood premeiered before SJA. Therefore Jack was the first companion to have a spin-off.
Psion is probably talking about the FIRST Sara Jane spinoff, that short one from about the 80s.
Which, if I recall correctly was actually about K-9, so that means the first companion to get their own spin-off is actually a robo-dog from the future.
Well ... K-9 and Company. In this case, the Company specifically referring to Sara Jane, so the show was about both of them. Although Hartzilla was right, it didn't go very far.
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Old November 19 2012, 09:40 PM   #66
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I don't think you necessarily need present day companions, but it makes it more convenient. It allows gives the Doctor someone to explain the future things that necessarily need explanation without requiring the Doctor to explain modern things (i.e., cell phones) that don't need explanation.
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Old November 19 2012, 11:00 PM   #67
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DW has had plenty of companions that weren't from the contemporary era in which the show was filmed.

And just because a companion might be picked up in the past doesn't mean they are from the past.
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Old November 20 2012, 02:50 AM   #68
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Why the need for a modern companion? By now we all know how the DW universe works. We don't need a companion to handhold us through it anymore.

As for explaining the modern world, why? Just assume that the Doctor already explained things like cel phones and airplanes, or in offscreen adventures and just carry on from there. Worked with Jamie and Leela.
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Old November 20 2012, 03:15 AM   #69
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Why the need for a modern companion? By now we all know how the DW universe works. We don't need a companion to handhold us through it anymore.
It's nice for the Doctor to have someone to talk to. Indeed, that is one of the primary purposes of a companion according to RTD.

Of course, back in the 70s Tom Baker insisted he didn't need a companion, and we even got a companion-less adventure just to shut him up on the matter. Although The Deadly Assassin is generally well regarded, I'm not sure how much longer they could have kept that up. Take note, part 3 has practically no dialogue at all.
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Old November 20 2012, 03:51 AM   #70
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Well ... K-9 and Company. In this case, the Company specifically referring to Sara Jane, so the show was about both of them. Although Hartzilla was right, it didn't go very far.

And, as Lis Sladen mentions in her autobiography, she signed up to star in Sarah and K-9 (as it was still called when Doctor Who Monthly #60 went to press - check the cover) and was slightly irritated to find she'd been demoted to 'company'.
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Old November 20 2012, 04:20 AM   #71
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Why the need for a modern companion? By now we all know how the DW universe works. We don't need a companion to handhold us through it anymore.
It's nice for the Doctor to have someone to talk to. Indeed, that is one of the primary purposes of a companion according to RTD.

Of course, back in the 70s Tom Baker insisted he didn't need a companion, and we even got a companion-less adventure just to shut him up on the matter. Although The Deadly Assassin is generally well regarded, I'm not sure how much longer they could have kept that up. Take note, part 3 has practically no dialogue at all.

I may have misspoke. I meant we don't really need a companion to be from 2012 for us to empathize with them.
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Old November 20 2012, 05:39 AM   #72
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I may have misspoke. I meant we don't really need a companion to be from 2012 for us to empathize with them.
One of the elements that make Doctor Who what it is is the juxtaposition of the mundane and the extraordinary. It helps if one of the main characters is one of us.
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Old November 20 2012, 10:07 AM   #73
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All of the original doctors had alien companions or companions from quite different times, without looking it up my brain wants to say that current day companions were the minority.
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Old November 20 2012, 11:24 AM   #74
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I may have misspoke. I meant we don't really need a companion to be from 2012 for us to empathize with them.
One of the elements that make Doctor Who what it is is the juxtaposition of the mundane and the extraordinary. It helps if one of the main characters is one of us.
Why? and define 'one of us'? Hell most companions aren't even the same gender as me. Is Rose still one of us given her tenure was so long ago she'd probably think a smartphone or a tablet computer was far future tech?
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Old November 20 2012, 04:10 PM   #75
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Why the need for a modern companion? By now we all know how the DW universe works. We don't need a companion to handhold us through it anymore.
It's nice for the Doctor to have someone to talk to. Indeed, that is one of the primary purposes of a companion according to RTD.

Of course, back in the 70s Tom Baker insisted he didn't need a companion, and we even got a companion-less adventure just to shut him up on the matter. Although The Deadly Assassin is generally well regarded, I'm not sure how much longer they could have kept that up. Take note, part 3 has practically no dialogue at all.

I may have misspoke. I meant we don't really need a companion to be from 2012 for us to empathize with them.
Oh sorry, I somehow missed that you said "modern companion" and thought you simply said "Why the need for a companion?" My bad.
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