Are regenerations still capped at 12? - Page 5

The Wormhole · November 19 2012, 05:13 PM

Brent wrote:

Timelords can steal reginerations from other timelords, IIRC, now he just needs to find another timelord, Romana should be out there, in E-Space

Romana was Lord President of Gallifrey when the Time War started, according to RTD's Time War essay.

marillion · November 19 2012, 05:53 PM

Sorry if this was mentioned....

Doctor Who, the show, comes to an end with the demise of the 13th... There is big fanfare and too do... End of the show.... It goes on hiatus for a couple of years just to let it all sink in and then...

Re-boot Ala Abrams-Trek... It just starts off again with Doctor #1... Alternate timeline and universe, or not.... They could keep some of the same characters (Susan, for one) and even reimage some of the original stories, but do a re-boot... We could get a definitive origin story from the day he steals the TARDIS...

The possibilities for new storylines are endless...

The Mirrorball Man · November 19 2012, 06:02 PM

marillion wrote:

The possibilities for new storylines are endless...

They already are! Why would that be necessary?

The Wormhole · November 19 2012, 06:03 PM

Doctor Who is one show which does not need a reboot. Especially since it practically reinvents itself every few years anyway.

A Trek XI style reboot does not serve this franchise at all. I don't get why the idea has been so popular since, well, since Trek XI.

marillion · November 19 2012, 07:25 PM

The Wormhole wrote:

Doctor Who is one show which does not need a reboot. Especially since it practically reinvents itself every few years anyway.

A Trek XI style reboot does not serve this franchise at all. I don't get why the idea has been so popular since, well, since Trek XI.

In general, I agree with you.. I'm just saying that if they're going to stick with the 12 regenerations cap, this would be one way to deal with it that I could live with...

I've always been keen on an origin story anyway...

Emh · November 19 2012, 07:53 PM

The Wormhole wrote:

Brent wrote:

Timelords can steal reginerations from other timelords, IIRC, now he just needs to find another timelord, Romana should be out there, in E-Space

Romana was Lord President of Gallifrey when the Time War started, according to RTD's Time War essay.

I've firmly believed for years now that Romana escaped to E-Space during the Time War (perhaps after she was overthrown by Rassilon?), taking with her a few other people (Leela, Drax, K-9 I & II, etc.)

Bacl · November 19 2012, 09:03 PM

Regenerations are not still capped at 12, but the show-runner and producers may choose to revisit this idea at anytime, before or at or even after the 13th Doctor.

The show has long ago abandoned any sense of hard rules (or even 'soft' rules) within it's universe. Each episode is essentially independent from the last, carrying over information and history only as that one episode's individual writer wishes.

So, for example, an episode can say X is impossible. The next episode can ignore this rule as though it were never said. Two years later, however, an episode can mention the premise that X is impossible as a throw-away line or joke. Another episode may choose to act as though X has been impossible all along, despite previous episodes which were contrary to this notion. Said episode can then equally dismiss the impossibility/possibility of X at the end. All episodes that follow need not honor anything that happened in this, or other episodes.

Starkers · November 20 2012, 09:49 AM

I’m surprised they didn’t make more of a big deal of River using up her regenerations on him, since as far as we know she’d only regenerated three times there’s 9 more incarnations there! Frankly however much I loved the show, I doubt it can really go beyond 20+ Doctors.

Green Lantern · November 20 2012, 07:49 PM

marillion wrote:

Sorry if this was mentioned....

Doctor Who, the show, comes to an end with the demise of the 13th... There is big fanfare and too do... End of the show.... It goes on hiatus for a couple of years just to let it all sink in and then...

Re-boot Ala Abrams-Trek... It just starts off again with Doctor #1... Alternate timeline and universe, or not.... They could keep some of the same characters (Susan, for one) and even reimage some of the original stories, but do a re-boot... We could get a definitive origin story from the day he steals the TARDIS...

The possibilities for new storylines are endless...

A reboot would be unessesary. Besides, they're making a one off prequel about the docotr stealing the tardis for the 50th anniversary.

Wereghost · November 20 2012, 07:51 PM

^ Are you sure you're not thinking of the Gatiss-written dramatisation of the show's beginnings at the BBC? Though what you've described would be very welcome too!

Sindatur · November 20 2012, 08:34 PM

Green Lantern wrote:

marillion wrote:

Sorry if this was mentioned....

Doctor Who, the show, comes to an end with the demise of the 13th... There is big fanfare and too do... End of the show.... It goes on hiatus for a couple of years just to let it all sink in and then...

Re-boot Ala Abrams-Trek... It just starts off again with Doctor #1... Alternate timeline and universe, or not.... They could keep some of the same characters (Susan, for one) and even reimage some of the original stories, but do a re-boot... We could get a definitive origin story from the day he steals the TARDIS...

The possibilities for new storylines are endless...

A reboot would be unessesary. Besides, they're making a one off prequel about the docotr stealing the tardis for the 50th anniversary.

Let's not create rumors out of fan desires

Professor Zoom · November 20 2012, 11:48 PM

marillion wrote:

The Wormhole wrote:

Doctor Who is one show which does not need a reboot. Especially since it practically reinvents itself every few years anyway.

A Trek XI style reboot does not serve this franchise at all. I don't get why the idea has been so popular since, well, since Trek XI.

In general, I agree with you.. I'm just saying that if they're going to stick with the 12 regenerations cap, this would be one way to deal with it that I could live with...

I've always been keen on an origin story anyway...

If the show is still as popular as it is when they reach the cap, they aren't going to cancel it. Popularity will almost always trump in show "rules." Almost always.

Green Lantern · November 21 2012, 01:20 PM

Wereghost wrote:

^ Are you sure you're not thinking of the Gatiss-written dramatisation of the show's beginnings at the BBC? Though what you've described would be very welcome too!

Um, what???

Brendan Moody · November 21 2012, 04:04 PM

Mark Gatiss is writing a docudrama about the origin of Doctor Who for next year. That's the only "prequel" that's been announced, not anything like an in-universe story about the Doctor stealing the TARDIS.

Starkers · November 21 2012, 04:15 PM

Anyway as we all know the Doctor didn't steal the Tardis

November 19 2012, 05:53 PM	#62
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November 19 2012, 06:03 PM	#64
The Wormhole Admiral	Re: Are regenerations still capped at 12? Doctor Who is one show which does not need a reboot. Especially since it practically reinvents itself every few years anyway. A Trek XI style reboot does not serve this franchise at all. I don't get why the idea has been so popular since, well, since Trek XI. __________________ "Internet message boards aren't as funny today as they were ten years ago. I've stopped reading new posts." -The Simpsons 20th anniversary special.

November 19 2012, 09:03 PM	#67
Bacl Fleet Captain Location: Wehnimer's Landing, Elanthia	Re: Are regenerations still capped at 12? Regenerations are not still capped at 12, but the show-runner and producers may choose to revisit this idea at anytime, before or at or even after the 13th Doctor. The show has long ago abandoned any sense of hard rules (or even 'soft' rules) within it's universe. Each episode is essentially independent from the last, carrying over information and history only as that one episode's individual writer wishes. So, for example, an episode can say X is impossible. The next episode can ignore this rule as though it were never said. Two years later, however, an episode can mention the premise that X is impossible as a throw-away line or joke. Another episode may choose to act as though X has been impossible all along, despite previous episodes which were contrary to this notion. Said episode can then equally dismiss the impossibility/possibility of X at the end. All episodes that follow need not honor anything that happened in this, or other episodes. __________________ [Town Square Central] This is the heart of the main square of Wehnimer's Landing. At the north end of the space, an old well, with moss-covered stones and a craggy roof, is shaded by a tall tree. www.Gemstone3.com

November 20 2012, 09:49 AM	#68
Starkers Admiral Location: Behind enemy lines...	Re: Are regenerations still capped at 12? I’m surprised they didn’t make more of a big deal of River using up her regenerations on him, since as far as we know she’d only regenerated three times there’s 9 more incarnations there! Frankly however much I loved the show, I doubt it can really go beyond 20+ Doctors. __________________ Werewolves on the Moon Now with Star Trek Into Darkness review The Devils of Amber Street

November 20 2012, 07:51 PM	#70
Wereghost Commodore Location: Ireland.	Re: Are regenerations still capped at 12? ^ Are you sure you're not thinking of the Gatiss-written dramatisation of the show's beginnings at the BBC? Though what you've described would be very welcome too! __________________ "As long as war is regarded as wicked, it will always have its fascination. When it is looked upon as vulgar, it will cease to be popular." Oscar Wilde

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November 21 2012, 04:04 PM	#74
Brendan Moody Vice Admiral Location: Providence	Re: Are regenerations still capped at 12? Mark Gatiss is writing a docudrama about the origin of Doctor Who for next year. That's the only "prequel" that's been announced, not anything like an in-universe story about the Doctor stealing the TARDIS. __________________ The Stars at Noonday

November 21 2012, 04:15 PM	#75
Starkers Admiral Location: Behind enemy lines...	Re: Are regenerations still capped at 12? Anyway as we all know the Doctor didn't steal the Tardis __________________ Werewolves on the Moon Now with Star Trek Into Darkness review The Devils of Amber Street