teacake does Stargate: punch it

[Sindatur]

Except System Lords don't produce Go'Auld Offspring that inherit their memories, they produce Human Offspring who inherit their memories (Like Daniel's son). The Queens produces the Symbiont Offspring, that inherit the Queen's memories

[gturner]

That's true, although at times early on they were a lttle bit vague on fleshing that out. There were quite a few times when it was pretty obvious that a Goa'uld kept his "queen" out of the loop, and perhaps that would be a partial explanation.

We might be getting awfully close to some minor spoilers, though.

[Sindatur]

gturner wrote:

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That's true, although at times early on they were a lttle bit vague on fleshing that out. There were quite a few times when it was pretty obvious that a Goa'uld kept his "queen" out of the loop, and perhaps that would be a partial explanation.

We might be getting awfully close to some minor spoilers, though.

Oh, haven't we already seen the Hathor Queen?

[teacake]

I'm skipping all those nice replies because I have a feeling there's something spoilerish in the discussion..

[gturner]

Sindatur wrote:

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Oh, haven't we already seen the Hathor Queen?

We haven't seen the Tok'ra queen on the planet that invented tritonin, have we? That's where we get the blank-slate symbiotes and the knowledge that it's up to the queen to impart knowledge as she chooses, or so I recall. For the life of me, I can't remember if that's in season 6 or 7.

Teakcake, the spoiler are pretty minor, discussing minutae of what you mostly already know about Goa'uld reproduction, but the particulars of how the show introduced various tidbits are minor spoilers refering to seasons and episodes, knowledge of which could spoil a couple of pretty cool revelations, a bit like finding out that the Goa'uld were eating their offspring in "Summit."

But as minor compensation, I confidently assert that two Goa'uld system lords were entirely responsible for the form of music known as "disco", and rap comes from a collaboration of Nihrti feat. Imhotep.

[teacake]

Oh well thank you for telling me! (About the spoilers being minor). I will finish reading the thread. I'm actually unable to watch Stargate tonight because of visitors

Damn them all!

Maybe I can get the visitors to watch the pilot.

[Lindley]

Fun fact: "2010" is the episode that gives Walter a first name. A previous episode had the name "Harriman" stitched on his uniform, though, so maybe he was borrowing someone's that day...

[teacake]

Well how is he going to do any laundry when he's forever dialing?

[The Wormhole]

Oh boy, Walter's name. I warn you, this post is going to draw on some stuff from coming seasons. Nothing spoilery, but still.

Originally, the character had no name, was referred to only as "Technician" in the scripts and credits. However, his name said "Davis" so naturally, it was assumed his last name was Davis. There was an episode in season 1 where Hammond referred to him as "Airman" though there were many fans who thought he said "Harriman" and believed that to be his name. Eventually, in 2010 he's called Walter, making it seem at this point his name is Walter Davis.

Then in season 5 he begins wearing a flightsuit on duty with a name tag that includes first and last names, which identifies him as Norman Davis.

In season 8 the character's role expands, and they finally decide to start referring to him by name in the scripts (prior to this he was still just "Technician" in the scripts). Of course, someone realizes the problem with his name. It's already decided they'll stick with Walter for the first name, that's what was used in dialogue and therefore noticed by a larger percentage of the audience.

Unofortunately, they can't use the last name Davis, since there is or at least was at that time an actual Walter Davis serving in the US Air Force. And since he's the only Walter Davis in the Air Force there is some sort of legality that means TV shows/movies can't feature someone in the Air Force named that. If there had been two guys named Walter Davis in the USAF, they would have been allowed. Star Trek ran into a similar problem with one of the first names originally chosen for Captain Archer, they couldn't use it because there was only one person registered with that name in the US, and there needs to be either no one or a minimum of two.

So since they can't use Davis they remember back when a lot of people misheard the word Airman and thought his name was Harriman and decide they might as well go with that. And from season 8 onward the character is named Walter Harriman, and eve wears a name tag which says Harriman.

[teacake]

So it seems he really is not going home and just changing into stuff he finds in lost property.

[gturner]

The Russians solved that problem by visiting a water planet and attaching their laundry to the inner ring of the stargate, then dialing inactive addresses for about 45 minutes. Walter should've done the same, taking time to visit the cafeteria for some delicious Fruit Loops or porridge.

One thing I wish the show would've had more fun with was alien foods and Earth foods, with our people reacting to new spices and dishes and visitors commenting on various things we make, perhaps swapping ingredients (herbs and food crops) and recipes as part of a cultural exchange. Then you'd have people in Area 51 whose job is pretending they discovered some new spice on an expedition to the Amazon rain forest or the African Congo. Meanwhile people like the Tolan would be negotiating for the Colonel's secret recipe for KFC.

[teacake]

gturner wrote:

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The Russians solved that problem by visiting a water planet and attaching their laundry to the inner ring of the stargate, then dialing inactive addresses for about 45 minutes. Walter should've done the same, taking time to visit the cafeteria for some delicious Fruit Loops or porridge.

Apparently on the Greenpeace ship the Sea Shepherd they do the laundry by dragging their clothes behind the ship in nets.

Nice salty cleanness results.

[DWF]

teacake wrote:

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Well how is he going to do any laundry when he's forever dialing?

Well he has admitted to not wearing socks in one commentary. And being the chervon guy it's possible he worked at a Chervon station in the past.

[Sindatur]

teacake wrote:

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Apparently on the Greenpeace ship the Sea Shepherd they do the laundry by dragging their clothes behind the ship in nets.

Nice salty cleanness results.

Hmmm, I'd be concerned about sensitive parts getting chafed, with not rinsing out the salt

[teacake]

Menace: Daniel you twat if she looked like a gigantic replicator bug you wouldn't be crying like that.