"There's turkeys in there, now. Real turkeys!" - Page 2

T'Girl · November 20 2012, 01:43 AM

Forbin wrote:

Here's my question: When Kirk says "It's Thanksgiving on Earth..."

Since when was it a world-wide holiday?

How should he have phased it? I never took Kirk's statement to mean the entire Earth celebrated an America holiday. A century later Data mentioned that a Hindu holiday was being observed on the Enterprise D, that doesn't mean the whole Earth was doing the same.

Shawnster · November 20 2012, 02:27 AM

T'Girl wrote:

Forbin wrote:

Here's my question: When Kirk says "It's Thanksgiving on Earth..."

Since when was it a world-wide holiday?

How should he have phased it? I never took Kirk's statement to mean the entire Earth celebrated an America holiday. A century later Data mentioned that a Hindu holiday was being observed on the Enterprise D, that doesn't mean the whole Earth was doing the same.

So, was it Canadian or USA thanksgiving on Earth that day?

Timewalker · November 20 2012, 03:06 AM

Indysolo wrote:

I'm partial to Antarian Glow Water at Thanksgiving.

Neil

You'd drink something that's used as Spican Flame Gem polish?

Shawnster wrote:

T'Girl wrote:

Forbin wrote:

Here's my question: When Kirk says "It's Thanksgiving on Earth..."

Since when was it a world-wide holiday?

How should he have phased it? I never took Kirk's statement to mean the entire Earth celebrated an America holiday. A century later Data mentioned that a Hindu holiday was being observed on the Enterprise D, that doesn't mean the whole Earth was doing the same.

So, was it Canadian or USA thanksgiving on Earth that day?

ZING!

We Canadians have our Thanksgiving at a time of year when there's still something to pull out of the ground and we don't have to shovel off the snow to get to it!

Navigator_NCC2120 · November 20 2012, 03:26 AM

Hambone wrote:

How about a heapin' helpin' of the green poultry that Elaan was noshing on in "Elaan of Troyius"? Guaranteed to turn the stomachs of your dinner guests.

The green poultry with the other food (pears? mangos?) looks delicious. I would drink a bottle of Chardonnay or Sauvignon Blanc with it.

Navigator NCC-2120 USS Entente
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Forbin · November 20 2012, 03:51 PM

T'Girl wrote:

Forbin wrote:

Here's my question: When Kirk says "It's Thanksgiving on Earth..."

Since when was it a world-wide holiday?

How should he have phased it? I never took Kirk's statement to mean the entire Earth celebrated an America holiday. A century later Data mentioned that a Hindu holiday was being observed on the Enterprise D, that doesn't mean the whole Earth was doing the same.

Oh, I took it that way when I was 9. After all, he said "It's Thanksgiving on Earth." That means Earth to me, not just a part of it. Especially since they made such a big thing of having an international crew. At 9, I didn't know then that it was a strictly national holiday. In later years I started saying to the TV screen:

Shawnster wrote:

So, was it Canadian or USA thanksgiving on Earth that day?

bbailey861 · November 20 2012, 07:49 PM

Timewalker wrote:

Indysolo wrote:

I'm partial to Antarian Glow Water at Thanksgiving.

Neil

You'd drink something that's used as Spican Flame Gem polish?

Shawnster wrote:

T'Girl wrote:

How should he have phased it? I never took Kirk's statement to mean the entire Earth celebrated an America holiday. A century later Data mentioned that a Hindu holiday was being observed on the Enterprise D, that doesn't mean the whole Earth was doing the same.

So, was it Canadian or USA thanksgiving on Earth that day?

ZING!

We Canadians have our Thanksgiving at a time of year when there's still something to pull out of the ground and we don't have to shovel off the snow to get to it!

Although with global warming, that may not be something we'll need to worry about in the next decade or so. This winter will tell if last year was an aberration or a sign of things to come.

Valin · November 21 2012, 01:16 AM

Forbin wrote:

Here's my question: When Kirk says "It's Thanksgiving on Earth..."

Since when was it a world-wide holiday?

Well, based on how 1960s Star Trek is portrayed, the earth of Kirk's era is USA influenced, Thanksgiving would be a planetwide holiday.

Forbin · November 21 2012, 03:53 PM

Yeah, I can see them celebrating the 17th century religious freedom of English refugees in 23rd century Somalia and Mongolia.

sbk1234 · November 22 2012, 05:53 AM

Hambone wrote:

How about a heapin' helpin' of the green poultry that Elaan was noshing on in "Elaan of Troyius"? Guaranteed to turn the stomachs of your dinner guests.

Could explain where Theodore Geisell got the eggs for his Green Eggs and Ham.

T'Girl · November 22 2012, 12:06 PM

The episode originally aired in mid-September, which is closer to Canadian thanksgiving, than American. And the actor playing Kirk is Canadian.

But given the primary audience at the time, likely the intent was American thanksgiving. Kirk is depicted on the show as (most likely) being an American, so the crew "gets" a American special holiday meal. We know they also have Christmas parties. If Kirk had been Saudi, then perhaps the crew would have had a special meal on Eid Al-Adha.

I had a boss once who would give his employees a pizza party every year on Stevie Nick's birthday (May 26).

Captain's prerogative.

CoveTom · November 24 2012, 08:58 AM

T'Girl wrote:

Kirk is depicted on the show as (most likely) being an American...

Confirmed in TVH, when Kirk tells Gillian he's from Iowa.

Gojira · November 24 2012, 07:05 PM

scotpens wrote:

For side dishes, colored food cubes. Lots of different-colored food cubes. Just make them taste like yams or cornbread or cranberry sauce.

Soylent Green goes well with colored food cubes too.

T'Girl · November 25 2012, 02:12 AM

CoveTom wrote:

Confirmed in TVH, when Kirk tells Gillian he's from Iowa.

Ah, but in the 23rd century, is Iowa still part of American, or has it been annexed by Canada?

Forbin · November 25 2012, 04:29 PM

I would have thought by then Canada would have seen the light and joined the US!

Sector 7 · December 2 2012, 03:55 AM

Hambone wrote:

How about a heapin' helpin' of the green poultry that Elaan was noshing on in "Elaan of Troyius"? Guaranteed to turn the stomachs of your dinner guests.

The extra drumsticks would make my grandchildren happy! Not sure they would love the color...

November 21 2012, 03:53 PM	#23
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November 22 2012, 12:06 PM	#25
T'Girl Vice Admiral	Re: "There's turkeys in there, now. Real turkeys!" The episode originally aired in mid-September, which is closer to Canadian thanksgiving, than American. And the actor playing Kirk is Canadian. But given the primary audience at the time, likely the intent was American thanksgiving. Kirk is depicted on the show as (most likely) being an American, so the crew "gets" a American special holiday meal. We know they also have Christmas parties. If Kirk had been Saudi, then perhaps the crew would have had a special meal on Eid Al-Adha. I had a boss once who would give his employees a pizza party every year on Stevie Nick's birthday (May 26). Captain's prerogative.

November 25 2012, 04:29 PM	#29
Forbin Admiral Location: I said out, dammit!	Re: "There's turkeys in there, now. Real turkeys!" I would have thought by then Canada would have seen the light and joined the US! __________________ My kitbashes: http://www.inpayne.com/models/kitbash/trekpage.html My Kitbash Wallpapers: http://www.inpayne.com/models/wallpa...allpapers.html My kitbash calendar: http://inpayne.com/calendar/kbcalendar2013.html

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