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Old November 17 2012, 03:08 AM   #31
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Re: One Thing That Seperates Star Trek: Deep Space Nine From Other Tre

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Too much of it was waiting around on the station and hoping something interesting would happen.
Hoping something interesting would happen on DS9, is like staring out your window at a torrential downpour and hoping that it would rain.

Is that a compliment to DS9 or...?
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Old November 17 2012, 08:55 AM   #32
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Re: One Thing That Seperates Star Trek: Deep Space Nine From Other Tre

Of course it is.

EVERYTHING on DS9 is interesting, it is interesting all the time.

Oh, except for Kira's Bajoran boyfriends, they were not interesting. They were there for toilet breaks.
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Old November 17 2012, 12:45 PM   #33
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Of course it is.

EVERYTHING on DS9 is interesting, it is interesting all the time.

Oh, except for Kira's Bajoran boyfriends, they were not interesting. They were there for toilet breaks.
Kira/Odo really worked, but Bareil was just a distraction and I think Kira was simply stringing Shakaar along...

I think DS9 mainly focuses on each individual tree in the wood, thus explaining why some people find DS9 to be 'boring' or 'aimless' but this approach pays off in droves when you get the more meatier episodes (The Die is Cast, Way of the Warrior, Apocalypse Rising, By Infernos Light, Call to Arms, and so forth) which sort are the bread and potatoes of DS9. Because then the changes happen impact the characters and you really emphasise for them because a) so much time was spent developing them, and b) some very interesting situations can arise.

Finally DS9 has got balls. We have a terrorist turned officer, the Dominion which almost beat the Federation, a far more shadier Federation what with Sisko's plan to get the Romulans into the Dominion war (plus Section 31), it explored religion, it focused vastly more on alien races, things were never really hunky-dory. DS9 is virtually the opposite of TNG and TOS in so many ways, that's why DS9 has balls.
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Old November 17 2012, 03:46 PM   #34
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DS9 is virtually the opposite of TNG and TOS in so many ways
Although of the two, DS9 is much closer to TOS, than TNG.

The TOS universe is also imperfect, and so is it's hero captain. Kirk threaten to destroy an inhabited planet, went on vendettas, and once beat up the leader of a Federation member world. Kirk was a self-professed soldier and killer.

Where TOS is separate and superior to DS9 is it never wallowed in darkness for protracted periods of time.

.... that's why DS9 has balls.
DS9 didn't have ball, it had a multi-season long premenstrual cycle.

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Old November 17 2012, 03:58 PM   #35
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Where TOS is separate and superior to DS9 is it never wallowed in darkness for protracted periods of time.
No, it wallowed in stiffness for protracted periods of time. It's also more a product of its time than DS9. It just basically comes down to what you're into. If you like the stiffness, cool. I liked the fact that DS9 really looked at different angles of things.

There were always conflicting viewpoints, and it usually wasn't easy to dismiss all but one, which of course was the moral of the episode we were all supposed to learn from on TOS or TNG. Nothing's wrong with that format, but I like the deeper dip in realism and complexity that DS9 has. To me, that's superior.

.... that's why DS9 has balls.
DS9 didn't have ball, it had a multi-season long premenstrual cycle.

If that's your take on "premenstrual," then please, don't look at the world, neither as it is, was, or could be.
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.... that's why DS9 has balls.
DS9 didn't have ball, it had a multi-season long premenstrual cycle.

Well that explains Kai Winn's mean streak as well as any theory I've heard.
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Where TOS is separate and superior to DS9 is it never wallowed in darkness for protracted periods of time.
No, it wallowed in stiffness for protracted periods of time.
I'm thinking you mean something different by that than I do.
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Old November 18 2012, 05:22 PM   #38
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Where TOS is separate and superior to DS9 is it never wallowed in darkness for protracted periods of time.
No, it wallowed in stiffness for protracted periods of time.
I'm thinking you mean something different by that than I do.
You've got a dirty mind, lol.
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Well we WERE talking about Kirk..
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Old November 19 2012, 06:38 PM   #40
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I don't like baseball nor cricket but Take Me Out To the Holosuite is a fantastic stress relief during the war.

DS9 beats the Holodeck episodes of TNG and V hands down.

Jadzia died. Bring in a new host. Show the consquences of death.

"Hoping something interesting would happen on DS9, is like staring out your window at a torrential downpour and hoping that it would rain."

You don't know what will come out of the rain. Gray areas. Not clear cut.

"DS9 didn't have balls, it had a multi-season long premenstrual cycle."

Wow, sexism.

I aslo liked the religion examination. We got to stay with one planet, people and culture. Yay! We got to spend more time on a space station/starbase. We got to spend more time with the Bajorans, Cardassians, Ferengi and Trill. Worf wasn't treated as "Piss off Worf". Runabouts. We got to have story arcs. We got to have more character arcs. We got better Star Fleet uniforms ( Officer Mark 1 and Mark 2 First Contact. Cadet Mark 1 Nog and Mark 2 Valiant). We finally got the Phase II series we always wanted.
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