Qesus? - Page 2

Drago-Kazov · November 18 2012, 10:22 AM

He would hang out with other races like this guy did:

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Voort_saBinring

teacake · November 18 2012, 10:57 AM

Other races.. I could be a smartass and ask if that wasn't what Jesus was doing, hanging out with other races. But I think a lot of Christian theology presumes us to be the only species in the universe.

Lonemagpie · November 18 2012, 11:41 AM

teacake wrote:

Yes it's hilarious that the Goa'uld or the Wormhold aliens or whoever get to be the Gods or prophets of entire species and planets but the only way they get to do that on earth is if it's a dead culture such as ancient Egypt.

The worst example of that is in Seth, where we discover that the Goauld Set has stayed on Earth for 2000 years and only got to be head of a cult of about 12 people... With that length of time, logically he should've at least been Pope...

Orac · November 18 2012, 12:02 PM

No, he was Flint from Requiem for Methuselah.

teacake · November 18 2012, 12:02 PM

Lonemagpie wrote:

Yes it's hilarious that the Goa'uld or the Wormhold aliens or whoever get to be the Gods or prophets of entire species and planets but the only way they get to do that on earth is if it's a dead culture such as ancient Egypt.

I'm only on season 5 so I'm still holding out for the big Goa'uld = the Pope revelation.

Alidar Jarok · November 18 2012, 12:15 PM

teacake wrote:

Yes it's hilarious that the Goa'uld or the Wormhold aliens or whoever get to be the Gods or prophets of entire species and planets but the only way they get to do that on earth is if it's a dead culture such as ancient Egypt.

Well, it's less likely to offend the viewing audience that way.

I don't think they ever even hinted at Q being Jesus. If anything, they might have hinted at Satan, but I don't recall that.

Shawnster · November 18 2012, 01:07 PM

EmoBorg wrote:

No truly loving God will create hell in the first place and FYI jews don't believe in hell or eternal damnation.

You, sir, are correct. The concept of Hellfire is not of Biblical origin, but crept into Christianity gradually over the first 400 years or so.

Getting back to the subject at hand ... I don't see Q impersonating Jesus as the Messiah, living with humanity for 33 years, giving his life as a sacrifice and then turning around and wanting to judge and condemn that same humanity as he did in Encounter at Farpoint and All Good Things.

Drago-Kazov · November 18 2012, 02:22 PM

I said a Q, not the Q.

The Wormhole · November 18 2012, 03:25 PM

Drago-Kazov wrote:

I said a Q, not the Q.

Thing is, Q (as in de Lancie) is the only one in the Continuum who has any real interest in humanity. And since behaving in such a manner would be a bit out of character for him, well...

King Daniel Into Darkness · November 18 2012, 03:28 PM

We met Satan in TAS' "The Magicks of Megas-Tu". He was a pretty nice guy, just a bit mishchievous and misunderstood. And totally jacked!

Drago-Kazov · November 18 2012, 03:38 PM

The Wormhole wrote:

Drago-Kazov wrote:

I said a Q, not the Q.

Thing is, Q (as in de Lancie) is the only one in the Continuum who has any real interest in humanity. And since behaving in such a manner would be a bit out of character for him, well...

How do we know he was the only one?

The Wormhole · November 18 2012, 04:28 PM

Drago-Kazov wrote:

The Wormhole wrote:

Drago-Kazov wrote:

I said a Q, not the Q.

Thing is, Q (as in de Lancie) is the only one in the Continuum who has any real interest in humanity. And since behaving in such a manner would be a bit out of character for him, well...

How do we know he was the only one?

Because it was mentioned every other time we saw another Q.

Besides, remember in Q Who Guinan comments that the other Q are "almost respectable." I don't know how many "almost respectable" people would try to manipulate a primitive species into worshipping them.

Mr. Laser Beam · November 18 2012, 04:30 PM

KingDaniel wrote:

We met Satan in TAS' "The Magicks of Megas-Tu".

That doesn't have to be *the* devil. Just *a* devil. And even if it claimed to be Satan, doesn't mean it actually was.

Although Satan regularly engages in just that sort of lies and deceit, so (pardon the pun) what the hell.

T'Girl · November 18 2012, 04:36 PM

teacake wrote:

But I think a lot of Christian theology presumes us to be the only species in the universe.

The Bible doesn't really say one way or the other, although I do wonder about John 10:16. It does state that God created the heavens right there in line one, so if extraterrestrial intelligent life is ever found, Christians will be cool with it.

Mr. Laser Beam · November 18 2012, 04:40 PM

There is absolutely nothing in the Bible which precludes the existence of aliens or any extraterrestrial life. Nowhere does it say that we are the only intelligent species in the universe. If aliens made contact with us right now, it wouldn't violate any tenet of my faith. I think most people would welcome it.

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Mr. Laser Beam Fleet Admiral Location: The visitor's bullpen	Re: Qesus? There is absolutely nothing in the Bible which precludes the existence of aliens or any extraterrestrial life. Nowhere does it say that we are the only intelligent species in the universe. If aliens made contact with us right now, it wouldn't violate any tenet of my faith. I think most people would welcome it. __________________ It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the beans of Java that thoughts acquire speed, the hands acquire shakes, the shakes become a warning. It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion.