Star Wars The Clone Wars Season Five News and Discussion - Page 18

Christopher · November 17 2012, 10:34 PM

Yeah, the Wookie's lightsaber was a cool design.

Why the hell did Obi-Wan warn Grievous that the ship was going to self-destruct? He had an opportunity to take out one of the enemy's top generals! Sure, maybe it was the chivalrous thing to do and all, but in general these characters haven't been shown to be too reticent about killing the enemy. The only reason it happened was that Grievous canonically had to be alive in Episode III. It was very awkward and arbitrary.

I'd been led to believe that David Tennant would be in three episodes, but his voice wasn't heard here; we saw Huyang, but he was under repair and silent. Bit of a letdown.

Interesting that the "uy" in Huyang is pronounced much the same way it is in Puyallup, Washington -- not "hoo-yang," but "hyoo-ang." (The city's name is pronounced "pyoo-al-up.")

Worf2DS9 · November 17 2012, 10:51 PM

I liked seeing another of the Grievous/Obi-Wan confrontations we've been treated to in CW. It all adds to the payoff of their final face-off in ROTS.

The Wookie youngling is a neat character, and his saber is indeed a coo design. It also allows the production an opportunity to use that stockpile of Chewbacca soundbites.

JD · November 18 2012, 12:01 AM

I enjoyed this episode. We got some pretty good action in the battle, and some fun stuff with the Jedi younglings. I agree with the people who liked the Wookie kid's lightsaber design. Apparently GL's no Wookie Jedi rule doesn't apply to TCW.

Stephen! · November 18 2012, 01:26 AM

For all Grievous knew, Obi-Wan could have just been bluffing about the ship being ready to blow up.

As for Hondo, if he was so intent on obtaining crystals, he could have just removed them from Ahsoka's lightsabers, but he seems to overlook that. Unless the lightsabers themselves are worth more than just the power source.

Christopher · November 18 2012, 02:10 AM

Stephen! wrote:

For all Grievous knew, Obi-Wan could have just been bluffing about the ship being ready to blow up.

Umm, what's your point? He still left because of Obi-Wan's message, and thus a chance to take out a major enemy was squandered.

As for Hondo, if he was so intent on obtaining crystals, he could have just removed them from Ahsoka's lightsabers, but he seems to overlook that. Unless the lightsabers themselves are worth more than just the power source.

Maybe it's dangerous to disassemble a lightsaber if you don't know what you're doing, and he was waiting until he could find an expert. Or maybe, knowing Hondo, he just wanted to gloat to Ahsoka by forcing her to see her sabers hanging from his belt, and would've dismantled them after he sold her.

jep316 · November 18 2012, 03:05 AM

While I like the current Jedi Younglings story ark I keep being reminded that most likely they will die at the hands of Vader carrying out Order 66.

Enterprise is Great · November 18 2012, 07:55 AM

4 episodes is a bit longer than necessary but I'm enjoying the youngling arc a lot more than I thought I would. I like Hondo. He's a fun villain. He can be menacing a goofy in the same episode. Who does his voice? I like the performance a lot.

Drago-Kazov · November 18 2012, 10:27 AM

JD wrote:

I enjoyed this episode. We got some pretty good action in the battle, and some fun stuff with the Jedi younglings. I agree with the people who liked the Wookie kid's lightsaber design. Apparently GL's no Wookie Jedi rule doesn't apply to TCW.

Too bad that now that the rule got lifted the EU will probably get nuked.

Mach5 · November 18 2012, 12:51 PM

Worf2DS9 wrote:

I liked seeing another of the Grievous/Obi-Wan confrontations we've been treated to in CW. It all adds to the payoff of their final face-off in ROTS.

Except that because of all these encounters, the line "I was trained in Jedi arts by Count Dooku" in ROTS doesn't make sense any more.

Shawnster · November 18 2012, 01:16 PM

Christopher wrote:

Stephen! wrote:

For all Grievous knew, Obi-Wan could have just been bluffing about the ship being ready to blow up.

Umm, what's your point? He still left because of Obi-Wan's message, and thus a chance to take out a major enemy was squandered.

As for Hondo, if he was so intent on obtaining crystals, he could have just removed them from Ahsoka's lightsabers, but he seems to overlook that. Unless the lightsabers themselves are worth more than just the power source.

Maybe it's dangerous to disassemble a lightsaber if you don't know what you're doing, and he was waiting until he could find an expert. Or maybe, knowing Hondo, he just wanted to gloat to Ahsoka by forcing her to see her sabers hanging from his belt, and would've dismantled them after he sold her.

Maybe the crystals fuse with the surrounding components after repeated use and can no longer be removed from the lightsaber.

Rarewolf · November 18 2012, 02:04 PM

Mach5 wrote:

Worf2DS9 wrote:

I liked seeing another of the Grievous/Obi-Wan confrontations we've been treated to in CW. It all adds to the payoff of their final face-off in ROTS.

Except that because of all these encounters, the line "I was trained in Jedi arts by Count Dooku" in ROTS doesn't make sense any more.

Unless just prior to Revenge Dooku killed someone important to Obi-Wan, and Grievous is reminding him of that.

Mr Light · November 18 2012, 02:14 PM

I didn't understand what was going on in that naval battle. Wasn't Obi-Wan part of a fleet of ships? Grevious lands a dozen droids on the hangar deck and he considers the entire ship lost? It looked like the Seps were blasting the other ships apart; why would Grevious board the flagship with a Jedi onboard and not one of the less protected ones? As mentioned above, why would Obi-Wan warn Grevious to save his life?

Timelord_Victorious · November 18 2012, 03:30 PM

Yeah, would have been better if Grievous had discovered the self destruct sequence by himself anyway and triggered the message that way.

So, once the secret was no longer a secret Obi Wan saw no harm in taunting Grievous a bit.

Not warning him wouldn't have made a difference at that point. If anything it would have delayed him a bit.

Saul · November 18 2012, 03:44 PM

Rarewolf wrote:

Mach5 wrote:

Worf2DS9 wrote:

I liked seeing another of the Grievous/Obi-Wan confrontations we've been treated to in CW. It all adds to the payoff of their final face-off in ROTS.

Except that because of all these encounters, the line "I was trained in Jedi arts by Count Dooku" in ROTS doesn't make sense any more.

Unless just prior to Revenge Dooku killed someone important to Obi-Wan, and Grievous is reminding him of that.

Then how do you explain these lines
GG: "Anakin Skywalker. I expected someone with your reputation to be a little... older."
Skywalker: " General Grievous... you're shorter than I expected."

Christopher · November 18 2012, 04:00 PM

Enterprise is Great wrote:

I like Hondo. He's a fun villain. He can be menacing a goofy in the same episode. Who does his voice? I like the performance a lot.

Hondo is played by veteran voice artist Jim Cummings, whose resume of animation roles is enormous. Just to name a few, he was Darkwing Duck, Winnie-the-Pooh from the '80s onward (and Tigger after Paul Winchell died), the Tasmanian Devil in Taz-Mania (and some later productions), MODOK in the '90s Iron Man, Dingo and Gillecomgain in Gargoyles, and Fuzzy Lumpkins in The Powerpuff Girls.

Yes, that's right -- the fearsome space pirate Hondo is actually Winnie-the-Pooh.

November 17 2012, 10:34 PM	#256
Christopher Writer	Re: Star Wars The Clone Wars Season Five News and Discussion Yeah, the Wookie's lightsaber was a cool design. Why the hell did Obi-Wan warn Grievous that the ship was going to self-destruct? He had an opportunity to take out one of the enemy's top generals! Sure, maybe it was the chivalrous thing to do and all, but in general these characters haven't been shown to be too reticent about killing the enemy. The only reason it happened was that Grievous canonically had to be alive in Episode III. It was very awkward and arbitrary. I'd been led to believe that David Tennant would be in three episodes, but his voice wasn't heard here; we saw Huyang, but he was under repair and silent. Bit of a letdown. Interesting that the "uy" in Huyang is pronounced much the same way it is in Puyallup, Washington -- not "hoo-yang," but "hyoo-ang." (The city's name is pronounced "pyoo-al-up.") __________________ Christopher L. Bennett Homepage -- Includes purchasing links for Only Superhuman, on sale now! Updated 12/30/12 with annotations for the novel. Written Worlds -- My blog

November 17 2012, 10:51 PM	#257
Worf2DS9 Writer Location: Canada, eh	Re: Star Wars The Clone Wars Season Five News and Discussion I liked seeing another of the Grievous/Obi-Wan confrontations we've been treated to in CW. It all adds to the payoff of their final face-off in ROTS. The Wookie youngling is a neat character, and his saber is indeed a coo design. It also allows the production an opportunity to use that stockpile of Chewbacca soundbites. __________________ Shorts in: SNW5 \| SNW7 \| SNW9 + Star Trek: Corps of Engineers - "The Light" + Full Throttle Space Tales #3: Space Grunts - "Rush"

November 18 2012, 12:01 AM	#258
JD Admiral Location: Arizona, USA	Re: Star Wars The Clone Wars Season Five News and Discussion I enjoyed this episode. We got some pretty good action in the battle, and some fun stuff with the Jedi younglings. I agree with the people who liked the Wookie kid's lightsaber design. Apparently GL's no Wookie Jedi rule doesn't apply to TCW. __________________ Over the course of many encounters and many years, I have successfully developed a standard operating procedure for dealing with big, nasty monsters. Run away. Me and Monty Python. Harry Dresden - Blood Rites (The Dresden Files #6)

November 18 2012, 01:26 AM	#259
Stephen! Commander Location: England	Re: Star Wars The Clone Wars Season Five News and Discussion For all Grievous knew, Obi-Wan could have just been bluffing about the ship being ready to blow up. As for Hondo, if he was so intent on obtaining crystals, he could have just removed them from Ahsoka's lightsabers, but he seems to overlook that. Unless the lightsabers themselves are worth more than just the power source.

November 18 2012, 03:05 AM	#261
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November 18 2012, 07:55 AM	#262
Enterprise is Great Rear Admiral	Re: Star Wars The Clone Wars Season Five News and Discussion 4 episodes is a bit longer than necessary but I'm enjoying the youngling arc a lot more than I thought I would. I like Hondo. He's a fun villain. He can be menacing a goofy in the same episode. Who does his voice? I like the performance a lot. __________________ JJverse Star Trek...is gonna rock again! On May 17, 2013!

November 18 2012, 02:14 PM	#267
Mr Light Admiral Location: Pennsylvania	Re: Star Wars The Clone Wars Season Five News and Discussion I didn't understand what was going on in that naval battle. Wasn't Obi-Wan part of a fleet of ships? Grevious lands a dozen droids on the hangar deck and he considers the entire ship lost? It looked like the Seps were blasting the other ships apart; why would Grevious board the flagship with a Jedi onboard and not one of the less protected ones? As mentioned above, why would Obi-Wan warn Grevious to save his life? __________________

November 18 2012, 03:30 PM	#268
Timelord_Victorious Rear Admiral	Re: Star Wars The Clone Wars Season Five News and Discussion Yeah, would have been better if Grievous had discovered the self destruct sequence by himself anyway and triggered the message that way. So, once the secret was no longer a secret Obi Wan saw no harm in taunting Grievous a bit. Not warning him wouldn't have made a difference at that point. If anything it would have delayed him a bit.