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Old November 17 2012, 12:28 PM   #961
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Re: Star Wars Episode 7 - 2015

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Star Wars has always been about the Skywalker clan and there's a good argument for all six films being basically Anakin's story. That they can make SW movies without any Skywalkers does not mean that they will.
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Old November 17 2012, 02:11 PM   #962
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Kotor was tremenderously successfull without them.
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Old November 17 2012, 02:16 PM   #963
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Kotor was tremenderously successfull without them.
But that wasn't one of the films. I don't think this sequel trilogy is going to not have Skywalkers in important roles.

I think it's possible once we get the post-sequel trilogy string of movies Disney plans to make, those will probably branch off from that 'main story.'
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Old November 17 2012, 03:19 PM   #964
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Look SW is a big brand, put Jedi into it and it will sell even without the Skywalkers.

Trek did the same with TNG and it worked.

But that wasn't one of the films.
So? Swtor had a 500 mil budget, if EA can takethat risk i don't know why Disney could not.
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Old November 17 2012, 06:27 PM   #965
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So? Swtor had a 500 mil budget, if EA can takethat risk i don't know why Disney could not.
I guess they could, but it's a moot point considering that they're doing Episode VII instead.
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Old November 17 2012, 06:34 PM   #966
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Look SW is a big brand, put Jedi into it and it will sell even without the Skywalkers.

Trek did the same with TNG and it worked.

But that wasn't one of the films.
So? Swtor had a 500 mil budget, if EA can takethat risk i don't know why Disney could not.
Most of it was actually for advertising. The actual production and design budget for Tortanic was quite low, which was why it bombed so badly and quickly reverted to f2p.
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Old November 17 2012, 07:12 PM   #967
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Look SW is a big brand, put Jedi into it and it will sell even without the Skywalkers.
Can do that, do not think they're doing that, basically.

Well given that Carrie Fisher has kinda sorta confirmed that she will be in the next movie I'm close to saying I know they're doing that.

It's less about what could also work (because yes, the KOTOR games are good) and more about what they are actually doing.
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Old November 17 2012, 07:24 PM   #968
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Can do that, do not think they're doing that, basically.
So at least we agree that it would be comercially viable.
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Old November 17 2012, 09:17 PM   #969
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I hate to say it, but this movie is going to have Disney playing it safe with what they know are successful ingredients and are not going to take risks. Therefore, the main character is going to be someone named Skywalker. In the unlikely even that it isn't, then the main character will at least be Luke's apprentice.

Yes, throughout the various novels, comic books and video games Star Wars has succesfully gone into any era with characters who aren't related to anyone seen in the movies. But Disney wants brand recognition, and face facts, more people know who Han Solo is than Grand Admiral Thrawn.
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Old November 17 2012, 09:30 PM   #970
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They should do an animated Thrawn Trilogy.
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Old November 18 2012, 12:03 AM   #971
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Perhaps the term you're looking for then is "protagonist." Because Palpitane is definitely not a "hero."
Oh he is. A cultured man whose ridiculous scheme to manipulate the stupid works perfectly. What a guy.
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Old November 18 2012, 12:23 AM   #972
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I hate to say it, but this movie is going to have Disney playing it safe with what they know are successful ingredients and are not going to take risks. Therefore, the main character is going to be someone named Skywalker. In the unlikely even that it isn't, then the main character will at least be Luke's apprentice.

Yes, throughout the various novels, comic books and video games Star Wars has succesfully gone into any era with characters who aren't related to anyone seen in the movies. But Disney wants brand recognition, and face facts, more people know who Han Solo is than Grand Admiral Thrawn.
What you're saying here doesn't make any sense to me. If you're not interested in movies that "play it safe" and that "don't take risks", why are you even talking about Star Wars VII in the first place? Why would you even think about anything that is part of an ongoing franchise?

Writing a Star Wars story with Admiral Thrawn or with a main character not named Skywalker is not taking risks, it's just putting lipstick on a pig. If you want to encourage filmmakers who take risks, there are plenty out there who need your support.
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Old November 18 2012, 12:41 AM   #973
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As for the whole no Skywalker/Skywalker debate, I think it's worth pointing out that most of the comics and novels that don't feature Skywalkers have mostly been smaller side stories (KOTOR is one of the few exceptions), while the big stories that get most of the hype and attention are ones focused on the Skywalkers and Solos. So while SW is not exclusively about them, they are the main focus, and I don't see any of the movies going to far off of that focus. I could see them maybe doing some spin-off movies focused on supporting characters from the new movies, but they will still probably have some kind of a connection to the Skywalker clan.
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Old November 18 2012, 01:07 AM   #974
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People seem to be ignoring the "hints" that these new movies will be based on Lucas' outlines, which leans prettily heavy in favor of continuing the storyline 30 years after Jedi. The news releases implied that there are room for stories after Episode IX, and those are the ones that will move beyond the Skywalker family.
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Old November 18 2012, 02:03 AM   #975
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while the big stories that get most of the hype and attention are ones focused on the Skywalkers and Solos.
What do you mean by hype?

Books, games and comics sales?
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