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Old November 17 2012, 03:06 AM   #16
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Re: Minbari vs. Klingon

I'd also give the advantage to the Minbari because they also make good use of guile, deception and cunning in ways that Klingons don't seem to either grasp or acknowledge as useful skills for a warrior. We see those skills employed by the likes of the Cardassians and Romulans...who like fighting in the shadows. Klingons prefer the direct approach even when its more likely to get them killed.
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Old November 17 2012, 03:22 AM   #17
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Klingons are Barbarians whereas Minbari are Samurai.

Or something to that effect...
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Old November 17 2012, 05:08 AM   #18
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Re: Minbari vs. Klingon

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I'd also give the advantage to the Minbari because they also make good use of guile, deception and cunning in ways that Klingons don't seem to either grasp or acknowledge as useful skills for a warrior. We see those skills employed by the likes of the Cardassians and Romulans...who like fighting in the shadows. Klingons prefer the direct approach even when its more likely to get them killed.
That's because Klingons view subterfuge and deception as inherently dishonorable. I'm inclined to agree with them. There's something to be said for direct, forceful, absolute truth.
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Old November 17 2012, 05:14 AM   #19
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I'd also give the advantage to the Minbari because they also make good use of guile, deception and cunning in ways that Klingons don't seem to either grasp or acknowledge as useful skills for a warrior. We see those skills employed by the likes of the Cardassians and Romulans...who like fighting in the shadows. Klingons prefer the direct approach even when its more likely to get them killed.
That's because Klingons view subterfuge and deception as inherently dishonorable. I'm inclined to agree with them. There's something to be said for direct, forceful, absolute truth.
Except when they don't.
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Old November 17 2012, 11:37 PM   #20
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Re: Minbari vs. Klingon

For every Minbari who says that all Klingons are drunken louts who do nothing but headbutt each other, there's a Klingon who'll reply that Minbari are humorless stuck-up cold fish who mention Valen every other word. Who's right? Neither, of course.
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Old November 18 2012, 12:55 AM   #21
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For every Minbari who says that all Klingons are drunken louts who do nothing but headbutt each other, there's a Klingon who'll reply that Minbari are humorless stuck-up cold fish who mention Valen every other word. Who's right? Neither, of course.
That still does not prove Klingons are better warriors than Minbari. Quite the opposite.

Granted Klingons are cool. Their ships are great looking. Bat'leths are sweet. And they bring fear to their enemies. But, IMHO, Minbari outclasses Klingons any day.

Read the previous posts, including mine. If you disagree, then please state your case. Refrain from name calling. Minbari may be cold fish but they have feelings too.

From what i've observed, any well-trained, stuck-up cold fish would prevail against a foe who directly charges at them with blasters and swords. These cold fish see their combat training not as a job nor a way of life. They see combat training as a religion and praises Valen's name while doing it. That's what makes the Minbari more effective fighters.

Fighting directly with as much force as you can looks cool. But its not practical. Combat is about outmaneuvering your opponent while inflicting the most damage with as minimal effort. Skill and ingenuity outstrips brute force any day.

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It would be quite an interesting contest of a Batt'leth vs. a Minbari fighting pike. I would say the X-Factor is the Minbari discipline and utter dedication to their warrior ways. The Klingon's X-Factor is sheer ferocity.
As for Klingon bat'leth versus Minbari fighting pike, my vote is for the fighting pike. There's quite an advantage with a bo staff against a sword. Ever heard of the story about the great swordsman and the farmer with a staff? Same analogy.
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Old November 18 2012, 09:44 PM   #22
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IMHO, Minbari technology is more advance.
They don't have transporters or shields (that I know of) so no they are not, not to mention that in the B5 universe nukes are still the big thing while their old news and obsolete in trek.
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Do klingons even fight in squads?
they fight in swarms of twelve
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Old November 19 2012, 12:54 AM   #24
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Klingons just zerg rush everything while Minbari use actual tactics.
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Old November 19 2012, 01:42 AM   #25
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Re: Minbari vs. Klingon

People who think that Klingons are dumb should check out Martok. He's definitely not stupid.
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