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Old November 16 2012, 11:08 PM   #16
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Re: 3 Registries for the Yamato?

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IMHO, accepting that mistakes were made and premises were changed is far better than trying to come up with convoluted leaps in logic to justify production flubs.
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Old November 16 2012, 11:18 PM   #17
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Re: 3 Registries for the Yamato?

The Stargazer had some similar problems. The filming model has the registry of 2893, and I think IIRC FASA also used a 2800 class series for their RPG list. The model in Picard's ready room however has 7100 and this number showed up in some other sources that represented the ship. It's just another behind the scenes goof.
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Old November 16 2012, 11:24 PM   #18
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Re: 3 Registries for the Yamato?

^ AFAIK, the NCC-7100 ship model in Picard's ready room has no name - just the number.

For the Yamato: 71807 makes the most sense, so that'd be the one I'd go with. 1301-E seems a bit nonsensical - only Enterprises use a system like that. And if anyone has seen 71804, it was probably a typo and/or a screen grab that wasn't too clear.
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Old November 16 2012, 11:31 PM   #19
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NCC-7100 is labeled with a name. The name is on the lower nacelles. It is identified as the U.S.S. Stargazer.
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Old November 16 2012, 11:35 PM   #20
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Re: 3 Registries for the Yamato?

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The 1305-E and 71804/7 are from two different episodes, correct? That's more than enough time to have the -E destroyed or retired and a new ship replace it.
They were ten episodes apart. If there's roughly one week between eps, then that's two and a half months between the (ghost) ship we see in "Where Silence Has Lease" and the ship in "Contagion," which was already on a mission and not just being commissioned. Can a Galaxy class starship be built in less than 2 1/2 months?
The Enterprise was constructed third in the Galaxy class series, the Galaxy first, Yamato second. Technically the Enterprise is the junior ship.
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Old November 16 2012, 11:40 PM   #21
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NCC-7100 is labeled with a name. The name is on the lower nacelles. It is identified as the U.S.S. Stargazer.
Do you have a pic as source? In every single photo I've seen of that desktop model, I have not seen the name "Stargazer" printed on it, just the 7100 registry. There is a pennant on the lower nacelle, but the writing is too small to make out any words (unless you have a better pic than this one):

http://drexfiles.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/3_4_31.jpg

(And if that decal was taken from a TMP Enterprise kit like the rest of the model, then that decal should read "Starship U.S.S. Enterprise United Federation of Planets.")

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The Enterprise was constructed third in the Galaxy class series, the Galaxy first, Yamato second. Technically the Enterprise is the junior ship.
What does that have to do with how long it takes to build a Galaxy class ship? Blssdwlf theorized that the Yamato in "Contagion" was a newer, different ship built after the Yamato seen in "Where Silence Has Lease." What does the age of the Enterprise have to do with that?
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Old November 17 2012, 12:23 AM   #22
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Re: 3 Registries for the Yamato?

Appears I was wrong, looking up the registries they go:

Galaxy 70637
Challenger 70199
Enterprise 1701 D
Yamato 71807
Odyssey 71832
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Old November 17 2012, 12:33 AM   #23
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Appears I was wrong, looking up the registries they go:

Galaxy 70637
Challenger 70199
Enterprise 1701 D
Yamato 71807
Odyssey 71832
Galaxy class starships managed to get some fantastic names didn't they? Add Venture (71854) in there too.
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Old November 17 2012, 12:34 AM   #24
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Re: 3 Registries for the Yamato?

Well they were meant to be the pinnacle of Starfleet achievement and are still the biggest Federation ships, so it's only fair.
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Old November 17 2012, 12:35 AM   #25
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Well they were meant to be the pinnacle of Starfleet achievement and are still the biggest Federation ships, so it's only fair.
With the name like Yamato, you wonder if they had a Bismarck too.
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Old November 17 2012, 12:41 AM   #26
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Dukhat,

I may be wrong about the name, but the model was labeled with a name. I'll go along with Enterprise for the name of the model. Thank goodness that this model doesn't represent an actual ship.

Chemakhuu,

You missed some.
* NCC-71854 U.S.S. Venture
* NCC-71867 U.S.S. Trinculo
The only unknown is the Magellan.

I think either NCC-71804 is just as sensible for the Yamato as NCC-71807.

I think that Challenger should have been NCC-72099, at least. Heck, considering when the Challenger was first seen, in 2377, I think that NCC-75099 might have worked. I think they were attempting to honor the lost space shuttle by using both its name and its registry. However, the space shuttle's registry was OV-099, not OV-199.

I don't think we have ever had a German WWII warship honored in the canon Star Trek. Which is strange to me, at least. Was this a delicate subject with the producers, who I understand had final approval in what ships were mentioned in dialog?
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Old November 17 2012, 01:03 AM   #27
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Well they were meant to be the pinnacle of Starfleet achievement and are still the biggest Federation ships, so it's only fair.
With the name like Yamato, you wonder if they had a Bismarck too.
Well it was named for Battleship Yamato, so maybe they have other anime named ships too...
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Old November 17 2012, 01:17 AM   #28
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The only unknown is the Magellan.
NCC-71820
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Old November 17 2012, 01:26 AM   #29
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Well they were meant to be the pinnacle of Starfleet achievement and are still the biggest Federation ships, so it's only fair.
With the name like Yamato, you wonder if they had a Bismarck too.
Well it was named for Battleship Yamato, so maybe they have other anime named ships too...
It wasn't named for anime, but for the biggest battleship ever built, Yamato. Being that they were part of Axis powers, it's stranger that they didn't name a ship after another famous WWII ship. May be naming it after a Nazi ship was just going too far for the producers/Starfleet? With that said, are there any Germans in the show at all?
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Old November 17 2012, 01:36 AM   #30
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Karl Jaegar ("The Squire of Gothos") had German ancestry. Kurt Mandl ("Home Soil") might have been German.

The registry for the Magellan was from a Paramount-licensed product, the Decipher RPG. A soft canon source, Haynes Enterprise Guide, didn't list a registry.
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