STO: TrekBBS Armada and House of TrekBBS - Fleet discussion and FAQ

[Timelord_Victorious]

Where do you see holo strippers? The NPC in the foreground is the DJ. This thing is more or less a recycled Club 47 from ESD.

[Scout101]

Not interested in most of the vanity projects. 200k DIL for each thing, just way out of whack. More power to you if you've got a fat bankroll and want to splurge, but I just don't see the value here.

That, and every damned Starbase is exactly the same. We can't customize it, can't tweak these vanity projects at all, so you pay out the nose, and then just look like everyone else anyway.

And there's nothing to DO on the starbase, so I've only even visited once or twice. To check it out, or to buy a Fleet version of a gun.

Like most of Cryptic's products lately, they created a great resource sink for us, and grindy games to get those resources, but they fell down on coming up with reasons to WANT to do that, and benefits for doing so. Biggest carrot they offer us is that after spending a billion resource points, it allows to to overspend for a Fleet/Omega/Romulan vanity version of items you had the whole time, with marginal stat changes for the min/max croud to justify doing them.

[Jim Gamma]

The phrase "all flash and no bang" certainly comes to mind with these projects.

[matthunter]

Scout101 wrote:

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Not interested in most of the vanity projects. 200k DIL for each thing, just way out of whack. More power to you if you've got a fat bankroll and want to splurge, but I just don't see the value here.

That, and every damned Starbase is exactly the same. We can't customize it, can't tweak these vanity projects at all, so you pay out the nose, and then just look like everyone else anyway.

And there's nothing to DO on the starbase, so I've only even visited once or twice. To check it out, or to buy a Fleet version of a gun.

Like most of Cryptic's products lately, they created a great resource sink for us, and grindy games to get those resources, but they fell down on coming up with reasons to WANT to do that, and benefits for doing so. Biggest carrot they offer us is that after spending a billion resource points, it allows to to overspend for a Fleet/Omega/Romulan vanity version of items you had the whole time, with marginal stat changes for the min/max croud to justify doing them.

This is slightly unfair. I find the "elite" end of multiplayer full of arrogant ****s who are more interested in how much DPS you do than whether everyone is having fun. Consequently, I don't have much of the high-end gear. The Fleet store gives folk like me a route to ships and equipment that would otherwise require a lot of interaction with tosspots.

I don't want to come in to STFs or FAs with you guys under-equipped, but I don't want to force you to have to spend time spamming Normals with me until I have sufficient gear to cope. The Fleet stuff gives me a way to get to the base level without that.

[Timelord_Victorious]

matthunter wrote:

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This is slightly unfair. I find the "elite" end of multiplayer full of arrogant ****s who are more interested in how much DPS you do than whether everyone is having fun. Consequently, I don't have much of the high-end gear. The Fleet store gives folk like me a route to ships and equipment that would otherwise require a lot of interaction with tosspots.

I don't want to come in to STFs or FAs with you guys under-equipped, but I don't want to force you to have to spend time spamming Normals with me until I have sufficient gear to cope. The Fleet stuff gives me a way to get to the base level without that.

True, those kind of Elite players are the worst. But not everyone who plays Elite content has that mindset.
Personally I am happy to fly with new people even though they cant have the best gear equiped yet.
It is not even necessary to do so.
The real good players will tell you that white Mk X gear is all you really need. It will force you to struggle perhaps and you may die a few times, but trust the other players to pull you through if necessary.
And to rely on others is not a bad thing, if you are the one who has enough wits to revive them when they've been oneshot or stick to the overall plans or simply apologizes when you slip up and make a mistake, same way they do, that's all that is necessary to show the quality. Not what marginally better gear someone has bought.

[Hartzilla2007]

matthunter wrote:

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This is slightly unfair. I find the "elite" end of multiplayer full of arrogant ****s who are more interested in how much DPS you do than whether everyone is having fun. Consequently, I don't have much of the high-end gear. The Fleet store gives folk like me a route to ships and equipment that would otherwise require a lot of interaction with tosspots.

I don't want to come in to STFs or FAs with you guys under-equipped, but I don't want to force you to have to spend time spamming Normals with me until I have sufficient gear to cope. The Fleet stuff gives me a way to get to the base level without that.

I found a good alternative is to get a bunch of ECs and just buy purple mkXI gear off the exchange.

[intrinsical]

To be frank, all my characters start playing elite STFs with only exchange bought uncommon/rare Mk XI items. Experience with STFs play a much larger factor than how
goodyour gear is, and there's no better way to gain experience than to jump in and learn.

[Rocketeer]

I think you all have some good comments for and against the starbase. I have mixed feeling about it myself.

What I like: It gives the fleet a "kin house" which could be used for roleplaying or just hanging out and having fun. It provides opportunity for extra DOFF assignments. It provides opportunity to purchase premium gear and ships. (I don't run STFs.)

What I don't like: It can distract members from playing the game. It can drain resouces that could be better used somewhere else, especially the Vanity projects. I'm okay with doing a few vanity projects if they make it more fun for the membership, but don't see a need to do every one that comes up. What's the ROI??? Some fleets are basing fleet rank solely on contributions to the starbase, other contributions or service to the fleet are thrown out the window.

Just my two credits...

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[tos2012]

How likely TrekBBS Armada is going to merge with the larger fleet? I hear from the STO forum that many smaller fleets are unable to cope with the S7 projects.

[TheRoyalFamily]

tos2012 wrote:

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the larger fleet

There's a larger fleet?

[Timelord_Victorious]

tos2012 wrote:

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How likely TrekBBS Armada is going to merge with the larger fleet? I hear from the STO forum that many smaller fleets are unable to cope with the S7 projects.

I hope it never does. The whole point of the TrekBBS Armada is to be a focal point for THIS community in game, not a resource pool for a starbase.

[Hartzilla2007]

Timelord_Victorious wrote:

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I hope it never does. The whole point of the TrekBBS Armada is to be a focal point for THIS community in game, not a resource pool for a starbase.

Besides are we in that big of a hurry?

[intrinsical]

The advantage of this fleet compared to most other fleets is that it is long lived. So long as there are trek fans coming here, the forum remains lively and STO remains fun to play, there is very little worry that our Fed and KDF fleets will collapse and be abandoned like many of the smaller fleets out there.

So whatever projects we can complete is here to stay for a long time for all current and future members to enjoy.

[Rocketeer]

Yes, there are several larger fleets out there, some good, some bad. TrekBBS should maintain it's identity fleet as is. However, there is nothing wrong with being allies with another fleet. Good for practicing PVP or cooperating on missions.

There are an almost unlimited number of small fleets, many are one player deep. I wish Cryptic would do something like LOTRO which disbands kinships that fall below a certain number.

I saw a ship that I want, but it requires a tier 5 shipyard. Probably take a while to get there. :-)

I have a message from the post office that a package arrived for me, so I'm headed there now. Perhaps it's my SWTOR game.

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[Kchunda]

Howdy all. Started playing a few months ago and am at lvl 50 in both Fed and KDF. Kinda felt like there was nothing left to do as a solo/lone wolf and have been hesitant to jump into STFs with PUGs, so I've just been DOFFing and exploring the Foundry for a long while...

Read the KDF House needs some assistance - would love to support this community if I can!

Edit: not near my PC but I think I am K'chunda@kchunda on the KDF and kchunda@kchunda on the Fed. Both tacs, BoP and Patrol Escort pilot (Fed leveled up as a tac cruiser until I realized how much more 'splosions I can have w DHCs!)