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Old November 15 2012, 10:45 PM   #166
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Re: Louisiana petitions Obama for secession.

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Same places they do now? Why do you assume that relations between America an the newly sovereign states would be acrimonious?

While no State has ever left the country, some American territories have left to form new nations, and they continue to have quite good relations with America.
They did so with consent.

That's the issue right here and why it might be acrimonious.
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Old November 16 2012, 12:54 AM   #167
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Re: Louisiana petitions Obama for secession.

Talking a few people the other day, mentioned that if Tennessee was brain-dead enough to seceded that I'd pack up the family and move up north. Got called a "traitor to the southern people", I said "thank you". I've got people now refusing to talk to me unless I sign the petition and agree to support "The New Confederacy"-- granted, that just reduced the stupid in my life quite a bit.

I can guarantee there's a few good 'ole boys stroking off to the idea of a new Confederacy.
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Old November 16 2012, 12:58 AM   #168
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^Or those parts registered fewer than 100 votes for each candidate.
An area of many square miles with fewer than 100 voters sounds pretty "empty" to me.

I'm not saying they aren't empty but as each dot meant 100 or more votes for each candidate that would mean potentially 99 votes times number of candaites so there could be 596 voters with 6 candidates each receiving 99 votes. Not discounting those who decide not to vote.
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Old November 16 2012, 01:01 AM   #169
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Re: Louisiana petitions Obama for secession.

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It seems most of the states have petitions for secession, even Massachusetts, Maryland, and Vermont. However I found a petition that looks quite promising.

Establish new legal system of motorcycle riding "Judges" who serve as police, judge, jury, and executioner all in one.

This is a petition to dissolve the current legal system and replace it with a single Hall of Justice, run by Judges; motorcycle-riding law officers who act as police, judge, jury, and executioner.
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Only 300 signatures so far, though.
It was over 600 by the time I looked at it.
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Old November 16 2012, 01:30 AM   #170
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Re: Louisiana petitions Obama for secession.

It's over 800 now. The way signatures are rolling in, I think we can get this one adopted!
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Old November 16 2012, 01:42 AM   #171
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Re: Louisiana petitions Obama for secession.

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They did so with consent.
Isn't that what's being sought here?

If you go back the the original petition, it isn't a declaration of war. It's asking to be allowed to withdrawal.

If this were to be done, it can be done peacefully.

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Old November 16 2012, 01:50 AM   #172
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Re: Louisiana petitions Obama for secession.

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They did so with consent.
Isn't that what's being sought here?

If you go back the the original petition, it isn't a declaration of war. It's asking to be allowed to withdrawal.

If this were to be done, it can be done peacefully.
I don't think it'll happen peacefully, but they're, of course, welcome to petition their government for redress of the grievances they believe they have.

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Old November 16 2012, 02:07 AM   #173
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Re: Louisiana petitions Obama for secession.

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They did so with consent.
Isn't that what's being sought here?

If you go back the the original petition, it isn't a declaration of war. It's asking to be allowed to withdrawal.

If this were to be done, it can be done peacefully.
I don't think it'll happen peacefully, but they're, of course, welcome to petition their government for redress of the grievances they believe they have.

The Government is then, in turn, welcome to look at it, laugh, and say "get over it you sore losers!" and then wad up the petition and toss it into the trash.
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Old November 16 2012, 02:09 AM   #174
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Re: Louisiana petitions Obama for secession.

Considering Louisiana was purchased from the french, I think if they want to secede they should pay fare market value for the land.
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Old November 16 2012, 03:00 AM   #175
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Re: Louisiana petitions Obama for secession.

I don't support the idea, but I do think that there could be hypothetical reasons why a state should be allow to secede.

I could learn to like an independent Louisiana if we were recognized and on good terms with the US. We'd have our 12-mile territorial waters and the exclusive economic zone. Then there's the wells on land, all our pipelines, refineries and other petroleum plants, plus Access to the Mississippi and the Intracoastal Canal. I think we could potentially do okay as far as business goes.

It all hinges on a not just peaceful, but friendly split. It wouldn't happen for many, many reasons. Still, it's not a nightmare.
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Old November 16 2012, 03:20 AM   #176
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Re: Louisiana petitions Obama for secession.

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They did so with consent.
Isn't that what's being sought here?

If you go back the the original petition, it isn't a declaration of war. It's asking to be allowed to withdrawal.

If this were to be done, it can be done peacefully.
Will they leave peacefully if they don't get to take all that land in their state that is owned by the federal government when they go?
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Old November 16 2012, 03:49 AM   #177
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Old November 16 2012, 04:02 AM   #178
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Re: Louisiana petitions Obama for secession.

maybe they should get a petition going to reintroduce slavery. bet that would be about as popular with these types.
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Old November 16 2012, 04:49 AM   #179
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Re: Louisiana petitions Obama for secession.

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Same places they do now? Why do you assume that relations between America an the newly sovereign states would be acrimonious?

While no State has ever left the country, some American territories have left to form new nations, and they continue to have quite good relations with America.
They did so with consent.

That's the issue right here and why it might be acrimonious.
Even so, I can only think of 2 territories who left to become nations. Philippines and Cuba. We're 50/50 there.
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Old November 16 2012, 04:50 AM   #180
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Re: Louisiana petitions Obama for secession.

Well, as a Southerner, I feel obligated now to point the finger North for a moment, cuz it's gettin freaky up in Maine now.
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