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Old November 14 2012, 09:58 PM   #226
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The truth is most continuity is vague by its very nature. Its fiction. Authors often contradict their own work. Leaving things vague allow them to adjust and expand their ideas. Its art not history. Hell our perceptions of history is contradictory and changing.

Its hilarious that fans expect clear and rigid continuity in adaptations of Superhero comic books. The actual source material has sloppy, always changing continuity.
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Old November 14 2012, 10:01 PM   #227
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The truth is most continuity is vague by its very nature. Its fiction. Authors often contradict their own work. Leaving things vague allow them to adjust and expand their ideas. Its art not history. Hell our perceptions of history is contradictory and changing.
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Old November 15 2012, 06:49 AM   #228
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The truth is most continuity is vague by its very nature. Its fiction. Authors often contradict their own work. Leaving things vague allow them to adjust and expand their ideas. Its art not history. Hell our perceptions of history is contradictory and changing.
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Old November 15 2012, 06:55 AM   #229
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It's very much a prequel to Singer's movies
Except for where it doesn't fit, such as the thing about Magneto helping Xavier build Cerebro.
Of course it's not going to have perfect continuity with Singer's movies. It's called creative license. They were trying to make the best film they could possibly make, and they didn't want to be a complete stickler to continuity. I get that.

Besides that, Magneto could still help Xavier build Cerebro. Hank might have designed Cerebro for the CIA, but at the end of First Class, Xavier hasn't even opened up the school yet. In the comics, Xavier and Magneto's relationship was always rocky. They would go from being friends to enemies and then back again. At one point, Magneto was actually leading the X-Men, which I think would be an interesting topic to explore in a sequel.

So, ostensibly, Magneto could still help Xavier build Cerebro underneath Xavier's mansion. It's still feasible.
Yeah, I don't think the end of FC would totally rule out their working together again if a big enough threat came about. It set up their differing ideologies, and who their followers would be, but they weren't trying to kill each other or anything. I think Eric's reaction when Charles was shot made it pretty clear he still cared.
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Old November 16 2012, 03:59 AM   #230
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It's very much a prequel to Singer's movies
Except for where it doesn't fit, such as the thing about Magneto helping Xavier build Cerebro.
Of course it's not going to have perfect continuity with Singer's movies. It's called creative license. They were trying to make the best film they could possibly make, and they didn't want to be a complete stickler to continuity. I get that.
If they had included Erik helping Xavier build Cerebro in the film, how would that have necessarily made it a worse film? The best film they could possibly make and continuity are not mutually exclusive.
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Old November 16 2012, 04:17 AM   #231
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I just rewatched "X-Men" the other day and despite the obvious continuity glares "X-Men: First Class" still very much fits in with the universe Singer designed and helped create. There are some things changed and perhaps even forgotten, but nothing that drastically says the two films can't coexist together. It's kind of like a retconned comic in a way, which we know happens all the time.
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Old November 16 2012, 04:38 AM   #232
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Bryan Singer tweet: "For those of you wondering...no leather suits."
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Old November 16 2012, 04:44 AM   #233
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Which makes sense since the leather suits were for the "X-Men" which haven't been established yet. I still think we'll probably get costumes similar in design to "First Class" but a little tweaked. Who knows though what the characters from the future (if we in fact see them) will be wearing.
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Old November 16 2012, 02:44 PM   #234
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I think the best choice in the future is just civilian clothes. After all, they want to do their best to blend in. I assume you'll have to show the future, although how much remains uncertain.
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Old November 16 2012, 09:22 PM   #235
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Depends what version of the future they'll be using. It could be a '1984' style dystopia dominated by Sentinel & Master Mold in which case the outfits are liable to be of the prison camp fatigues/freedom fighter persuasion. If it's more along the lines of the "Age of Apocalypse" storyline then it'll be more akin to 'Mad Max 2'. Then again it could just be a "normal" future and not require any special costume designs.
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Old November 16 2012, 09:27 PM   #236
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Future Logan wears regular clothing, then there are the mutant prison camp jumpsuits...shown in the panel in this article...

http://ca.ign.com/articles/2012/06/0...ie-makes-sense
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Old November 17 2012, 02:04 PM   #237
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Except for where it doesn't fit, such as the thing about Magneto helping Xavier build Cerebro.
Of course it's not going to have perfect continuity with Singer's movies. It's called creative license. They were trying to make the best film they could possibly make, and they didn't want to be a complete stickler to continuity. I get that.
If they had included Erik helping Xavier build Cerebro in the film, how would that have necessarily made it a worse film? The best film they could possibly make and continuity are not mutually exclusive.
Maybe they wanted to save that aspect for a sequel? Who knows.

We're not the creatives behind this process. At the end of First Class, the characters were (re)introduced, the relationships established, and the stage set. Xavier's school hadn't even been opened yet.

After all, there is still something like 30 years before we get to the events of Singer's first X-Men movie (if that- remember the title card said "The not too distant future", so it could even be more than 30 years), so a lot can happen from now until then. Why hinder future stories when you can save certain elements for other installments?
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Old November 17 2012, 02:16 PM   #238
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Also the biggest thing we have to keep in consideration here...is that we only know they're adapting "Days of Future Past", we don't now the how yet.

Obviously they're most likely not going to do a straight up adaptation considering the state of the timeline and universe right now. I suspect the first movie will jump start or "seed" events that lead into the conditions that create the "Days of Future Past" future at some point in later films.

I could be wrong, just speculating after all...but one of the reasons why I didn't really believe the story at first was because of where we are in the timeline. The actual comic story happens when the X-Men are already established. We just started to see the start of that with "First Class". So there are a ton of interesting things that Singer and company are going to have to do. It should be a fun ride to see what they come up with
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Old November 17 2012, 07:40 PM   #239
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In other words, it isn't the right point in the chronology for DOFP, but they're going to do it anyway, because of the popularity of DOFP.
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Old November 27 2012, 09:03 PM   #240
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Patrick Stewart and Ian McKellen are officially coming back!
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